• su25@lemmygrad.ml
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            it is extremely counter-revolutionary to cheer on a proxy of the real evil empire (united states) and the nazis that fight for it

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              I feel like that’s pretty unilateral way of thinking. America is an evil empire, but it’s not going to be “the real evil empire” for everyone.

              The real evil empire is the one who most recently killed all of your friends and family. Despite what you say America doesn’t have a monopoly on violence and capitalism, and just because you’re attacking American interest doesn’t make you a leftist ally.

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                how can you say that america doesn’t have a monopoly on violence when it has committed horrible acts of violence across the world for decades (invasion of iraq, afghanistan, etc) with zero repercussions? america has never answered for the thousands of civilians slain by their soldiers.

                attacking one of the historic enemies of socialism is important for leftists. the united states has spent countless dollars and years fighting socialist movements both domestically and abroad. you cannot be a leftist without being vehemently against american hegemony.

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                  committed horrible acts of violence across the world for decades (invasion of iraq, afghanistan, etc) with zero repercussions? america has never answered for the thousands of civilians slain by their soldiers.

                  And I am not defending America… you see how easy it is to not defend the actions of an imperial capitalist expansionist?

                  Since the fall of the Soviet state how many wars have the Russian state been in? How many of those ended up aiding the leftist cause? I don’t defend America’s history of violence and empire, but I also won’t defend other nations aping the same strategy and tactics.

                  attacking one of the historic enemies of socialism is important for leftists.

                  Leftist aren’t attacking the actual empire though… a nation who’s arguably more nationalistic and just as embedded in crony capitalism is killing tens of thousands of civilians for the sake of empire. Even if Russia wins, how does that hurt America? They just used up generations of unreplaceable people and military stock piles. Creating a power vacuum all over the world, just to win back a country that America really has no real interest in.

                  Russia being engaged in a prolonged military quagmire is the largest win for the American hegemony in recent memory. They get to sell all the weapons they want, drain their competition of young men and military equipment, and all without bringing any real possibility of war fatigue on the home front.

                  you cannot be a leftist without being vehemently against american hegemony.

                  And you seriously think that this war is going to harm the hegemony? How is adding two members to NATO destroying the US’s grip on the former eastern block? How is scaring virtually all your neighbors into the arms of the west damaging the west?

                  I agree with your sentiment, but geopolitics isn’t as simple as always cheering for anyone in opposition to western interest. Should we be celebrating the wholesale slaughter of a socialist Kurdish settlement by isis, just because isis fights against western hegemony?

                  Your worldview is severely short sighted, and doesn’t do anything to progress any kind of leftist ideology. You’re celebrating the wholesale destruction of the poorest nation in Europe by the strongest nation in Europe.