Materialism>idealism
I’m not trying to get into a whole debate, it’s just interesting to me the way some people cling to these idealist philosophers. Same w the stoics imo. As a guy who used to read all of them… they’re useless to actually understanding life. Like it can be helpful to read them in order to understand how the Western worldview evolved, but they really shouldn’t be taken as some sort of handbook - which many seem to do. (reactionaries). People who read Nietzsche or Plato and think they have some sort of secret insight is my biggest red flag irt pseudo-intellectual who is just going to waste your time… same with Dostoevsky btw.
Confucius is based af though.
Edit: Also, yes these kinds of people exist- my former mentor/boss who spent decades at a white shoe DC law firm would accept any idea if you found a quote by Plato to justify it lmao.
If a modern-day liberal said even one of these terrible things, would you be asking us to look for “context,” or would you be right in there making fun of it with everyone else?
I don’t understand what personal attachment you have to Nietzsche, but he is just one writer. There are others. Ones who you don’t have to struggle to defend because they don’t say things like “Woman is not yet capable of friendship: women are still cats and birds. Or at best cows…”
“Woman! One-half of mankind is weak, typically sick, changeable, inconstant. . .”
“Woman has always conspired with the types of decadence, the priests, against the ‘powerful’, the ‘strong’, the men-”
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How does it take “a lot of work” to understand Nietzche’s woman-hating quotes above? I’m marveling at how you’re trying to twist everything he says into something positive.
That’s right, we’re all too stupid to understand the very special and surpassingly intelligent ubermensch who loves slavery and hates Black people and women, thank you for being so much smarter than the rest of us.
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The next time you’re upset with some fascist saying something horrible and anti-communist, just remember: they are only terrible things if they mean what you think they mean.
You have to read all of wolfballs and Gab to understand the context <3
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Well they certainly agree with him about Ubermensch, a woman’s place in society, the necessity of killing all the “degenerates,” and that Black people and Asian people are lesser humans.
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Honest to god, what the fuck is it about Nietzsche that gets you so hard up to defend him? Why do you think that you are the only person here who has read him and truly understand him?
Like, seriously: do you believe that you possess some special insight? That you’re superior to me in some way?
Perhaps you believe, that I, as a woman, am just weaker? Changeable? Inconstant? A cow?