Materialism>idealism

I’m not trying to get into a whole debate, it’s just interesting to me the way some people cling to these idealist philosophers. Same w the stoics imo. As a guy who used to read all of them… they’re useless to actually understanding life. Like it can be helpful to read them in order to understand how the Western worldview evolved, but they really shouldn’t be taken as some sort of handbook - which many seem to do. (reactionaries). People who read Nietzsche or Plato and think they have some sort of secret insight is my biggest red flag irt pseudo-intellectual who is just going to waste your time… same with Dostoevsky btw.

Confucius is based af though.

Edit: Also, yes these kinds of people exist- my former mentor/boss who spent decades at a white shoe DC law firm would accept any idea if you found a quote by Plato to justify it lmao.

  • Seanchaí (she/her)@lemmygrad.ml
    6·
    2 years ago

    Well they certainly agree with him about Ubermensch, a woman’s place in society, the necessity of killing all the “degenerates,” and that Black people and Asian people are lesser humans.

      • Seanchaí (she/her)@lemmygrad.ml
        8·
        2 years ago

        Honest to god, what the fuck is it about Nietzsche that gets you so hard up to defend him? Why do you think that you are the only person here who has read him and truly understand him?

        Like, seriously: do you believe that you possess some special insight? That you’re superior to me in some way?

        Perhaps you believe, that I, as a woman, am just weaker? Changeable? Inconstant? A cow?

          • Seanchaí (she/her)@lemmygrad.ml
            81·
            2 years ago

            I’ve clearly read more Nietzsche than you bruv

            Edit to add: I’ve let myself have an hour of distance from this, and I just want to say, that the misogyny on display here is astounding and truly frustrating. To be talked down to in this manner and cast aside, to be told that it isn’t worth engaging with me with an actual argument other than “you’re just not smart enough to understand why these quotes about women being stupid aren’t actually offensive…”

            I find this whole interaction wildly unMarxist, wildly uncomradely, and frankly, disappointing. It shouldn’t be a difficult position to condemn such blatant attacks on women, especially not here on Lemmygrad.

            And, finally, “I’m bored of this now” as a complete dismissal to shut the conversation down without ever providing any real critical analysis?? Peak twitter lib behaviour.