browsing through All has so much pro-fascist posts coming from lemmygrad that it drowns out all the other instances. I’m surprised they’re even federated by default but we should have an option to block instances from All if lemmy is deadset on federating with them just because they are fascists with a red and yellow flag…

(before the Tankies start posting about how they aren’t pro-fascism “Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy” which all describe the Z movement in Russia they gleefully support in multiple posts)

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      The US government has backdoors into every single US-based tech platform (which is basically all of them) and you’re concerned about China doing mass surveillance?

      You are under mass surveillance. Five Eyes and other intelligence sharing alliances are a means of circumventing national privacy laws, the US has Britain do mass surveillance on US citizens and then that data is shared to the NSA and stored, the US does mass surveillance on British, NZ, Aus citizens and then that data is shared to them and stored by their intelligence services. The collective west has the largest and most comprehensive global mass surveillance apparatus in the world and yet you’re utterly obsessed with China. Why? Five Eyes, Nine Eyes and it’s now all the way up to Fourteen Eyes.

      Take off the propaganda goggles and look at the immense proportions of the western apparatus first. You seem to be utterly blind to the fact everything you see about China is MASSIVE projection from the west who are 20-30 years ahead of China in terms of this apparatus.

      And to answer your question, China’s law does not exempt the government. They require a warrant to access that data unlike in america and parts of europe.

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        Your whataboutism is pretty useless. China also uses its tech companies for spying. China’s mass surveillance program is larger and more ambitious. If anyone has been duped by propaganda it’s you.

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          “Whataboutism”. Bruh.

          If you say something is bad you are INHERENTLY making a comparison to other things. You can not call one thing bad without benchmarking it against other things and gauging a comparison of a range of good to bad.

          It is important to benchmark this because it highlights unexamined chauvinism, sinophobia and internal hypocrisy that you have. You have an extreme emotional reaction to anything Chinese and make the claim they’re horrific but you don’t actually compare the reality of the west with what China is. You claim they are the worst, you have done this multiple times in the thread, this is YOU making the comparison to others so OF COURSE I’m going to examine whether your comparison is remotely accurate.

          I will end this interaction by pointing you to this list of US atrocities, managed by Dessalines himself.

          Tell me again how China is the worst one here.

          Do you spend this much time attacking America? Or the rest of the west? No you don’t. Despite the fact they are objectively and measurably worse. Because you’re a chauvinist that has never done one ounce of self crit or examined your own contradictions.

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            I’ve criticized America much more than I ever criticized China. You are hypocritically collecting lists of US crimes and not Chinese crimes. Hmm I wonder why you neglect that. Oh yes confirmation bias.

            Anyway your assessment of me is baseless. Keep harping on that dumb claim that I hate China.

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              When? I don’t see that in any of your history. I see a lot of whining about everyone except the west.

              All of your energy is spent on enemies of nato and none of it is spent on the biggest and most horrible entity in the world. It’s very obvious where your allegiances lie.

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              I’ve criticized America much more than I ever criticized China

              thats a lie, you do the obligatory “america bad” but then put all your energy into anti-china comments. Just like every other neolib