• crazycaveman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    Chromium isn’t native to Windows. iOS is the only OS (I’m aware of) where browsers are forced to use a specific engine, but even that will be changing

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        No, I’m not. Chromium doesn’t exist in Windows unless you install a program that includes it. Chromium web engine is “native” to the chromium web browser, not to any OS (except maybe ChromeOS). As espi mentioned, Internet explorer’s mshtml is the only engine “native” to Windows. Just look at the Opera browser, they changed web engines from Presto to chromium; that’s not using “what’s native to the platform” (Opera works across all OS’s with chromium, except for iOS for the restriction I mentioned before), it’s using what the developers/company want to use to render their pages. Nothing in Windows itself provides any of the chromium engine “pieces”

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          This was true until Edge transitioned to Chromium. Now the natively installed browser in Windows is Chromium based.

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            careful, you used the word native.

            Firefox users apparently get triggered by it.

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              Because what you claim is wrong.

              Microsoft programs that need a web rendering engine use MSHTML, not Chromium. MSHTML is baked into the operating system.

              You can completely delete Edge from your computer and Windows will keep working fine.

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          Edge is using EMET for memory protections.

          Chrome has EMET disabled because it’s own memory protections conflict and it just won’t execute.

          When you’re make a web view for Windows you’re either bringing a long your own rendering or using Edge because it’s included.

          No one wants to secure their own rendering which is why they all use whatever is already there which is EMET which is a pita to test so they just go with Edge.

          native is just jargon for “what is already there.”

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            EMET? The framework that was end-of-lifed in 2018? I’d bloody well hope Chrome doesn’t use something that isn’t supported anymore.

            Chrome’s sandboxing is weird and prone to breaking, but at least it isn’t stuck relying entirely on a kernel framework exclusive to an OS that people are extremely hesitant to keep up-to-date.