• thervingi
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    2 years ago

    I like Jordan Peterson, not because I agree with him, but because he is willing to challenge the consensus and take flak for it. I think his ideas on religion are crazy.

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      2 years ago

      I find this outlook curious. Do you find a homeless person yelling at strangers on the street similarly likeable? What if it’s a politician preaching a hateful dogma? Does simply challenging the status quo, regardless of the harm caused, warrant praise?

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        2 years ago

        A couple,

        1. That religion has no use in society. Even if its not true.
        2. That the right to not be offended is more important than the right to govern ones own speech.
        3. That success is primarily a result of birth and not competence. (Within reason of course)
        4. That you can change the world without first cleaning your own room
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          1. I don’t think anyone really says that. Most people people in the mainstream would say that religion has a place in many people’s personal lives, just not in legislation.

          2. Saying that people should face consequences for harmful things they say is not the same as opposing free speech.

          3. The mainstream still thinks that society is a meritocracy, it’s only leftists who’d say that success is primarily based on luck (with birth being a major element of that, because it determines your place on a lot of privilege scales such as economic, racial, gender, and many more)

          4. You literally can change the world without cleaning your room. Do you think they hold bedroom inspections for everyone before they’re given power? “Hold on, Mr. Putin, you can’t declare war on Ukraine: your bedroom isn’t tidy enough.”

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            2 years ago

            Saying that people should face consequences for harmful things they say is not the same as opposing free speech.

            If it’s in legislation then yes it is.

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              2 years ago

              Please actually read the legislation. Hate Speech is there as a way to make you face consequences of your actions