• Matt@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Have people installed Debian since Debian 12? The installer is very straight forward, and Debian 12 also comes with all the firmware modules to make things “just work” for people.

    I would like to know exactly what Debian does wrong other than a blanket statement of “it’s hard”.

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      1 year ago

      As a supposed technical person, I am ashamed of myself of how long it took me to download the ISO for my VM. Its like 7clicks from homepage into increasingly more information rich site to get their full iso. Originally I browsed through a bunch of pages before realising where it was.

      TBF their netinstall iso is available in just two clicks but I was too stuborn to get the full iso.

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        1 year ago

        The netinstall is the recommended installer, why do people want the big iso? It’s not going to save you any time. You’ll be downloading less overall if you use the net installer.

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          1 year ago

          Might be I am biased from past when i had very slow unreliable internet. Also since it was for a VM I would be installing it a few times so better to have the full iso.

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        1 year ago

        I definitely agree their website needs work, it is very confusing to browse if you need anything other than the net installer! I find everything else by using search engines instead.

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        1 year ago

        I just tried it myself, to get from the homepage to the amd64 installer file download link, it is exactly 7 clicks. This is a flaw in Debian that needs to be resolved, as not everyone has access to internet off the bat due to some wifi chip makers (COUGH realtek COUGH) not having very nice Linux support. A general re-design of the website to modernise it would be a good way for Debian to freshen itself up and attract new installers. Sadly, I am a systems programmer and not a web developer, so I am unable to personally contribute much :(

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        1 year ago

        Hmm? I’m sorry, I’m not following because all distributions follow the same format here, which is that you flash an ISO to a USB stick (or other removable media).

        This is, in fact, how it also works for Windows.