I enjoy being outraged at rightist idiots too but I think it’s worth considering what you focus on and what you spend your attention on.
In this case, I was pleasantly surprised at the amount of people that were for the black panthers and that had good points to raise regarding them. The one asshole comment is meaningless IMO.
I think this points to something inherently wrong in the way reddit (and implictly lemmy) orders and displays comments. A higher level comment is displayed more proeminently while rebutals to that comment seem “below” it, no matter how eloquent, how many they are or how upvoted they are.
I much more prefer the old school comment system in forums where comments are displayed in the order they’ve been written. That way, discussions can’t be taken over then by having more upvotes or by being the first to say something.
Fair enough but the fact that there’s “scores” for a comment still seems wrong to me. Having a number next to someone’s comment is gonna have a psychological impact even if you try to fight it consciously. It promotes the dictatorship of the hivemind - say the things that most people agree with or face the wrath of the downvotes.
IMO that stiffles the conversation because I imagine a lot of people learn in time what is “ok” to say and what is not and then act accordingly. I myself have many times stopped myself from posting a comment because I knew it will not be agreed upon and I didn’t want to face that.
Also, I edited the comment. When I said top comment, I meant a higher level (e.g. a reply to the thread, instead of reply to a comment). You can’t fix that by reordering comment chains around, the only solution is to serialize them like in old school forums (and show a quote block or similar).
I enjoy being outraged at rightist idiots too but I think it’s worth considering what you focus on and what you spend your attention on.
In this case, I was pleasantly surprised at the amount of people that were for the black panthers and that had good points to raise regarding them. The one asshole comment is meaningless IMO.
I think this points to something inherently wrong in the way reddit (and implictly lemmy) orders and displays comments. A higher level comment is displayed more proeminently while rebutals to that comment seem “below” it, no matter how eloquent, how many they are or how upvoted they are.
I much more prefer the old school comment system in forums where comments are displayed in the order they’ve been written. That way, discussions can’t be taken over then by having more upvotes or by being the first to say something.
I agree with you on how reddit orders comments but Lemmy uses a completely different algorithm to do that so that new comments don’t get buried.
Fair enough but the fact that there’s “scores” for a comment still seems wrong to me. Having a number next to someone’s comment is gonna have a psychological impact even if you try to fight it consciously. It promotes the dictatorship of the hivemind - say the things that most people agree with or face the wrath of the downvotes.
IMO that stiffles the conversation because I imagine a lot of people learn in time what is “ok” to say and what is not and then act accordingly. I myself have many times stopped myself from posting a comment because I knew it will not be agreed upon and I didn’t want to face that.
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Also, I edited the comment. When I said top comment, I meant a higher level (e.g. a reply to the thread, instead of reply to a comment). You can’t fix that by reordering comment chains around, the only solution is to serialize them like in old school forums (and show a quote block or similar).