• CITRUS@lemmygrad.ml
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    3 years ago

    I mean sure I don think any set of numbers would 100% accurate, but that much of a difference really goes to show the systems. China has a state that will mobilize to take action for it’s people, while the US has corporations and bureaucracy. More over it’s more the environment the people live in. In China, people are less alienated so they actually care about one another, while in the US they don’t. In the States people antigov (and not in the based way sadly) and get all flustered with putting on a fucking mask. Not to mention to save face with the US’s propped up economy, corporations threw human beings into the fire as essential workers.

    TLDR: China’s low numbers arent the jaw dropping ones, It the US’s for how many people can die without hesitation.

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      most of what I know about chinese culture is my friends from high school who had abusive family members that put ridiculously high expectations on them (note that chinese students were a majority in my school). it sounds like the government might be doing a better job than our government. as far as caring about one another, that i don’t know. don’t have enough info on the topic other than friends from high school, so i can’t say anything there.

      i know the US is shit. i’m disabled and cannot work and i’m constantly abused by everyone, government and citizens alike. just makes my already shit mental health worse and makes me way more of a misanthropist. i trust no one and my default is hate. of course i don’t go out of my way to hurt people, and i do help people, but given the choice i’d much rather be left alone. i’ve come to the conclusion that most humans are inherently evil.

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        Woah comrade don’t worry, no malice here, at least from me.

        Now you say you’re disabled, is physical or mental? Just understanding where your difficulties come from.

        Now I have never been in the shoes of a pessimist so forgive me, (I actually have too much faith in people from time to time) but do some sexy DiaMat and try to figure out WHY you think this way. You wanting to be left alone could be some alienation under capitalism ( I am a zoomer who didnt have a phone in his developmental years so boy am I a weird individual, though the effect seems to be extra social for me, like a puppy lol)

        You probably need a real life therapist, but tbh Marxism gives a weird amount of confidence and objectivity. Hope you will do better, down votes are just people disagreeing, and the Reddit format makes it bring back some PTSD. There’s a reason why Lemmy bans social nuisances.

        Carry on comrade.

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      also forgive me, i’m tired, defensive, and impulsive right now but yes, i agree that the US number is awful. but i thought other countries had numbers more consistent with the US than China. and a lot of other countries, i believe, took the virus WAY more seriously than the US. it’s not a US vs. China thing for me really, it’s more of “wow, that’s a reaaaaalllly low number compared to everyone”.

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        3 years ago

        Again just the way the government and economy is organized, youll see Cuba and Vietnam handle it well, while other US lapdogs trend worse the more “free” they become.