• Cyrus Draegur@lemm.eeEnglish
    352·
    11 months ago

    the Sith are the wolves at the door.

    The Republic is a really shitty, busted up, almost useless door.

    getting rid of the door is not going to help you.

    • Sunforged@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      344·
      11 months ago

      Criticism of the door is not advocating for the wolves. You’re doing the thing.

    • bhmnscmm@lemmy.worldEnglish
      131·
      11 months ago

      Maybe replacing the busted up door with a new one is a good idea?

      It’s not like you have to choose between only two options.

      • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.eeEnglish
        91·
        11 months ago

        Unless you kill the wolves first, they will kill you the moment you attempt to replace the door because in order to put a new door up you must take this one down.

        • bhmnscmm@lemmy.worldEnglish
          42·
          11 months ago

          You’re right. I guess accepting a mediocre bare-minimum forever is the best we should expect.

          It’s almost as if the broken door’s existence depends on the fear of the wolf.

          • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.eeEnglish
            51·
            11 months ago

            Wrong. We must kill the wolves. Whether this is incidental damage by extensive use of a nail gun while attempting to reinforce the existing door is just a pleasant accident.

      • ZeroHoraEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        Or you could replace pieces of the door until is brand new without giving too much chance of the wolf bust inside.

  • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
    28·
    11 months ago

    “We should improve the New Republic somewhat.”

    “Yet you participate in the New Republic. Curious! I am very intelligent.”

  • vis4valentineEnglish
    18·
    11 months ago

    Then you have the empire supporters arguing about how the empire was better.

    • Sunforged@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      94·
      11 months ago

      How is it not deflection when it’s used to curb criticism? Is it your opinion that facts cannot be used as deflection when they aren’t relevant purely because it is a truth?

  • ryathal@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    31·
    11 months ago

    Since one of the founding members of the new republic later forms yet another resistance group, maybe they aren’t better than the empire.

    • Dandroid@dandroid.appEnglish
      9·
      11 months ago

      Well, I think Leia got kicked out of the New Republic when people figured out that Vader was her father. And I’m pretty sure the resistance was to fight against the First Order, not the New Republic.

      • ryathal@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        7·
        11 months ago

        That makes the new republic so much worse. It requires active effort to be as incompetent as they are written.

        • Dandroid@dandroid.appEnglish
          11·
          11 months ago

          100% agreed. The New Republic was such a disaster that it wasn’t even believable in the sequel trilogy, which was one of many (many, many, many) things they were criticized for.

          I do like how they are expanding on that in The Mandalorian by showing that it was infiltrated and sabotaged by imperial loyalists. In fact Tim Meadows’ character in this meme was one such imperial loyalist infiltrator. So it’s not that they were solely incompetent due to having no plan. But their plan was to rehabilitate and assimilate the former imperials, but the rehabilitation part failed, so former imperials pretended to be rehabilitated and then just sabotaged the New Republic.

          They are expanding on it out of necessity, and I believe it is just retconning because of how poorly thought out the sequel trilogy was. But I am enjoying the story we are getting out of it nonetheless.

          • Sunforged@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            2·
            11 months ago

            Was Meadow’s character a former imperial? I either missed that or completely forgot it, what was the tip off?

            • Dandroid@dandroid.appEnglish
              2·
              11 months ago

              I thought immediately after this conversation with Carson Teva (Paul Sun-Hyung Lee), Colonel Tuttle (Tim Meadows) immediately gives that information to Elia Kane (Katy O’Brian), who then gives it to Moff Gidean (Giancarlo Esposito).

              Perhaps I misinterpreted him speaking with Elia Kane as working with her. But for sure Elia Kane was an imperial infiltrator. Perhaps they weren’t working together.

              Oh maybe I’m misremembering the whole scene.

              • Sunforged@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
                2·
                11 months ago

                I vaguely remember that. I think when I watched it I interpreted it as him naively sharing information with her. Perhaps it was part of her duties to collect the data, she did seem fairly high up the New Republic’s information stream.

                • Dandroid@dandroid.appEnglish
                  2·
                  11 months ago

                  I think you’re right. I just read through the script of that scene, and I think Colonel Tuttle was just doing his job. Elia Kane inserted herself into the conversation and confirmed that Tuttle shouldn’t help Nevarro at this time, then got more information out of the conversation while Carson Teva was only trying to help.

                  So yeah, on second thought, I don’t think Tuttle was imperial, only Kane.