Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They’ve been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren’t Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it’s bots or wumao. Human beings can’t possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

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            No it isn’t, that’s laughable. The US has far and away the worst most heinous surveillance of its citizens, not to mention the citizens of other nations as well. Try reading a summary of what Snowden revealed about the US state surveillance programs for instance

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                you think it’s better that the US tries to hide all of its nefarious (and frankly worse) spying? what the hell???

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                I’m not from China but I’ve been there and it isn’t hard to speak with people from China to learn that it’s not some dystopia. US is hands down far more of a police state.

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                    I highly doubt that. It sounds like you’re someone who’s never had your material security threatened. There’s no other way you could imagine that unrestricted pickup artist and grind set entrepreneur internet is more valuable than the Chinese peoples’ ongoing victories against crushing poverty.

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                    In the US corporations do the censorship and it isn’t better. Also, if that trumps everything for you, a reexamination of priorities is probably in order. There are actually more important things than reactionaries being able to say whatever they want online. Facebook was used to help commit genocide in some countries for example, is that OK for you or should the calls for genocide have been censored?

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            I know Edward Snowden is a libertarian or some dumb shit but man he really did get himself exiled for nothing.

            “I assume that the enemies designated by my rulers are worse than my admittedly very wicked rulers, based entirely on testimony from those same wicked rulers.”

            PIGPOOPBALLS

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              Snowden got citizenship in Russia for his entire family, a lot of money from authoring a book and other media deals, and worldwide fame as a hero

              He may not have achieved his goal but his consolation prize is not bad

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        I legit can’t tell if this is a joke lol. Which country do you live in that doesn’t have a lot of cameras? I have awful news for you if you live in the US or the UK.