cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/264644

The Ministry of Justice of the Donetsk Peoples Republic just announced that the death penalty will be on the table as a punishment for the nazis and mercenaries that will soon be put on trial for their crimes against the people of Donbass. The trial will begin soon. The nazis are being charged with crimes against humanity, genocide and mercenarism (all punishable up to the death penalty). There are 2 british citizens among them. Nazis be shitting their pants, libs be coping 🤣🤣🤣👌👌👌👌

  • AgreeableLandscape☭@lemmygrad.mlOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    3 years ago

    Also, no, collective punishment is not a thing at least in US law. Individuals commit crimes, individuals get punishments. An individual would have to agree to commit a crime for it to be conspiracy.

    https://federal-lawyer.com/criminal-law/criminal-conspiracy/

    Federal conspiracy charges are broad and can apply to any individual who conspires with another individual to perpetuate a crime against the United States. Federal conspiracies are charged under 18 U.S.C. 371. An individual can be charged with a conspiracy to violate any kind of federal law.

    you do not have to have committed the underlying offense to be guilty of conspiracy. Under the conspiracy laws in the United States, if you act in concert with another individual to perpetrate a crime, you can be held liable as well.

    If they take any action in furtherance of any of the atrocities of the Azov, they could be on the hook for all the crimes, depending on the exact wording of the law in the DPR.

    There’s also abetting, which generally refers to calling for or encouraging the commission of a crime with the knowledge that it could result in the crime actually being committed. Given that, one, tons of Azovs are on record publicly calling for “racial purification”, and it’s common knowledge (certainly to the initiated members) that the Azov Battalion has actually committed acts toward that in the past and intends to continue, I think that would apply. Depending on the jurisdiction, aiding and abetting could well net you the same punishment as if you personally committed the crime, or some percentage of it.

    None of this is legal advice BTW, but I think the vast majority of the Azov are on the hook for at least one serious offense.

    • pingveno
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      3 years ago

      I’m not a lawyer or anything, but I’m pretty sure you’re off there. What they’re emphasizing is that you don’t have to do the crime itself to be guilty of conspiracy. Thing is, you still have to at least do the conspiracy. There is no guilt by association. Of course, this is all under US law. I’m not sure what any Ukrainian fighters would be subject to.

      Of course, the war criminals who ordered the indiscriminate shelling of Ukraine won’t be brought to any justice. They will stay far behind the military and economic lines, safe from consequences.