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  • KiG V2@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago

    Before becoming an ML I was a huge cheerleader for left unity. I’d spam it all the time amid sectarian shitflinging. I identified as a “non denominational leftist” and saw Pan-Leftism as the best way to go.

    Nowadays 90% of everything that isn’t ML or one of its many offshoots gives me debilitating cringe but I still stand by the idea, even if as just a mechanism to try and appeal to the amicable types who are attracted to the ideas of everyone getting along during this “anti tankie” hysteria era in hopes that they, like me, will expose themselves to a little bit of everything and might have the observation and analysis to arrive at the conclusion that MLism is the obviously better choice.

    Beyond that, I go back and forth. I think that we should generally be better at appreciating every stage of the radicalization pipeline. Like an anti-Stalin communist is better than an anti-communist leftist/rad lib which is better than a liberal and so on (although everybody has different paths and don’t all necessarily move incrementally left steadily). I think there are valuable ideas and individuals and efforts in other sectors (my go-to example is the value of some decentralized anarchist methods). I definitely would like to think that everybody teaming up against, for example fascism, is valuable.

    But at the same time, I do wonder. I’m of the opinion at this point that everything that isn’t communism tends to lend itself in the end either to capitalism of fascism in a lot of ways. But idk pragmatically it might be valuable to at least outwardly position ourselves regardless as pro left unity.

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        2 years ago

        My intolerance isn’t of other “leftists” as a monolith(though I do have a huge issue with the preponderance for liberals to hide under “leftism” as an umbrella without ever putting forward even an inspiration for their own takes), my intolerance is for those who would tell me to my face that I need to put aside my ethics, morals, or philosophy for a cause that will not materially benefit me or my people.

        The fuck do I care if we replace the white fascists that currently exist in our government with white “leftists” who still feel comfortable in setting the timetable for the freedom of subjects of empire(you’ve seen 'em before, the ones who claim that we can solve America’s race issue by ignoring race as an issue and centralizing class only)? That’s just trading the old boss for a new model in the same line to me. My intolerance is reserved for those intolerant of Black Power, and those alone.

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          2 years ago

          I think one of the many signs that I read that finally convinced me “okay, this is the place to be” regarding MLism was the sheer diversity in both race, nationality, walks of life and perspectives in these spaces and the mutual respect between comrades. Like all my time I spent in other leftist spaces (on and offline) was painfully homogenous one way or another, diversity felt less like a natural occurrence and a necessity to function and do justice for everyone or more like a magic clout token to chase after to look cool and woke for social media and it shows, hard.

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        2 years ago

        Yeah, I appreciate MLs who can occupy pan-leftist spaces and gently play the long game radicalizing people. I do the same sometimes but damn this anti-tankie shit makes me pull out my hair. Like I’ll deadass be as kind, polite, respectful, eye-to-eye, and generously charitable in my interpretations of others, but increasingly over the last year or so the response I get is akin to how one would talk to a piece of dogshit stuck on your shoe. I would still say it’s worth it to play nice sometimes but damn do these bratty fuckers make it needlessly exhausting.