Explanation: male, 38, 130 pounds. Skinny, low muscle mass but have a beer keg belly.

My day is 7am wake up. Get kids to school. Work until 5. Get kids from school. Cook, shower and then I’m exhausted AF.

I’m semi fit? I’m a mechanic professionally and spring til summer I mountain bike regularly. So my calves are monsters.

But would like… basic at home sit ups. Push ups etc like on a Saturday, would that help at all?

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    Working out isn’t the primary path to losing weight, though it is of course a big part of staying healthy.

    You burn quite a lot of calories in a day just from being alive. The additional calories you’d burn from a brisk 20 minute walk might about to one cookie. It’s far easier to just not eat the cookie.

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      That’s interesting. I’d guess my career keeps me “fairly” fit then? I average 8,000 steps per shift, and sometimes I do “reps” with ratches and other word nonsense. (Mechanic)

      This is all good info though, I had 0 knowledge about anything when asking my original question. I didn’t know there were even multiple types of fat on your body.

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    Going from doing nothing to something one day a week will have dramatic effects. But didn’t expect it to happen overnight or to have the same effect as going 3 or 4 times a week. Even just doing however many pushups you can once per day is a very good way to start condition yourself so you can handle and enjoy getting into a gym eventually. Sit ups are pretty trash. Six packs are made in the kitchen is a common adage for a reason. If you can’t work your core any other way I’d suggest planks over sit ups though. If you can, get a pull-up bar and power blocks. I would strongly recommend intending to get to a gym eventually though. From personal experience having a home gym was a bit of self sabotage

    Cook, shower and then I’m exhausted AF.

    This probably because you don’t exercise. Exercise gives you energy and is an excellent anti depressant. Starting is always the hardest part but you’ll have more energy the rest of the day.

    And more than anything, even what you’re doing, stick with it. Results take time. You’ll have days you think it’s doing nothing, you’ll miss days and think what’s the point of starting again, you’ll be disappointed with rate of progression and that’s always the biggest test.

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    When I say exhausted I mean I’ve been active from 7am until around 8pm non stop. I just don’t have energy to go to a gym or something and I’d rather just wind down.

    And I do a lot of cycling. I know it’s not “ultra mega workout” but I am active and when I mountain bike I can maintain my heart rate pretty well. I noticed my calves getting meatier and my stamina was pretty good at the end of the season.

    So id like to think I’m fairly active… but a lot less when I was younger (drumming, skating, snowboarding, biking. Every day. 365)

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    You’ve gotten a lot of advice on here, but I don’t think I’ve seen this…are you able to “suck in your gut” if you try hard and it improves how it looks? If so, it might not even be visceral fat, but just poor muscle tone in your abdominal area. If this is it, then core strength exercises are the way to go. Practice sucking in that gut more and more until it becomes the default, and strengthen your abs and obliques.

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      I can suck it in, yes. And obviously it gets smaller the less bloated I am too (I’m lactose intolerant but live in WI and cheese is life)

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    Anything helps, of course. Anything is so much better than nothing.

    You are skinnyfat, yes? You don’t want to lose weight, you want to add lean mass. Weights are what do that best. Ideally you would want to lift heavy at least thrice a week if you are trying to shape up.

    I can only lift once a week lately (lady, mid 50s) but do yoga 4x/week too. It’s maintaining me reasonably lean.

    I have been where you are (single working parent) and what I did back then was wake up at 5am and run, because that was the only time of day nobody needed anything from me, and running is nearly free, just shoes. It sucked, but the days I ran I did feel better later on, it was worth it overall I think. If there is any way you can wake up a half hour earlier and do something vigorous, and then add weight training once a week I think you will get good improvement. Just maybe not as much mass as you ideally want.

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    if you stick to your workouts and train to failure, your muscles will grow.

    however to eliminate fat, you don’t exercise. you eat less. when you are eating below caloric maintenance, your body makes up the difference in fat. you can’t control where the fat comes from. you just have to maintain that for a long time and it’ll go away. everyone stores fat differently. some in legs, some in stomach, etc.

    but you cannot exercise away body fat. it’s like 80/20 diet exercise

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      Personal anecdote here: I run 40km/week so that I don’t have to be so picky with my diet. I’m offsetting about 2,400cal from my weekly intake.

      That said, I need to be careful sometimes because my appetite can surge and I can easily break even and even surpass being in a deficit. Its just a matter of being aware of how much I’m eating in general and adapting to appetite changes.

      That said, when I want a pizza I’m gonna smash that pizza down my gullet lol

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        I run a half marathon 1-2 times a month, and the costco poutine (2000+ calories) really hits different when it’s guilt free

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      A closer look at physical activity and metabolism

      You can’t easily control the speed of your basal metabolic rate, but you can control how many calories you burn through physical activity. The more active you are, the more calories you burn. In fact, some people who seem to have a fast metabolism are probably just more active — and maybe fidget more — than others.

      To burn more calories, the Physical Activity Guidelines for Americans recommends the following:

      Aerobic activity. As a general goal, aim for at least 30 minutes of moderate physical activity every day. If you want to lose weight, maintain weight loss or meet specific fitness goals, you may need to exercise more.

      Moderate aerobic exercise includes activities such as brisk walking, biking, swimming and mowing the lawn.

      Vigorous aerobic exercise includes activities such as running, heavy yardwork and aerobic dancing.

      Strength training. Do strength training exercises for all major muscle groups at least two times a week. Strength training can include use of weight machines, your own body weight, heavy bags, resistance tubing or resistance paddles in the water, or activities such as rock climbing.

      No magic bullet

      Don’t look to dietary supplements for help in burning calories or losing weight. Products that claim to speed up metabolism usually don’t live up to their claims. Some may cause bad side effects.

      https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/metabolism/art-20046508

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        The only thing that helps lose weight is something that makes you not want to eat. ADHD meds do that for instance. Those “miracle” drugs that cost half a salary do that. You can’t chow down on fastfood and lose weight a the same time

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    you don’t even have to work out.

    you can get there simply with diet.

    that said, dieting doesn’t target where the fat comes from.

    Core strength training (like sit ups, push ups, etc,) will help with muscle definition, and that can improve the appearance, but if you break down how much say, a pound of body fat is in excercise vs how much that pound is in hambergers… well. restricting calories will always be more effective for weight loss.

    has your doctor said you need to lose weight? 130 pounds sounds not-overweight.

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      I know OP posted a specific question, but don’t forget that working out is incredibly good for your physical and mental health. You’ll feel stronger and more mentally resilient, and you can get rid of a surprising number of body pains.

      You’ll also increase your energy levels, as counterintuitive as that seems.

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    I think the conventional wisom is diet is more important than exercise in losing weight, although I think most people would recommend working out once a week regardless if you would lose weight or not, basically any working out would be positive if you aren’t at all, it couldn’t hurt to do sit ups and push ups and see where that takes you.

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    Your beer belly, is it hard or jiggly?

    If it’s a hard beer belly, that means you have lots of visceral fat, fat inside the rib cage. This is a strong indicator of metabolic syndrome.

    The single best way to tackle that beer belly is to go low carb, this reduces your blood sugar, letting your insulin levels come down, allowing your body to actually function properly. The human body, really, really, really, really does not like visceral fat, and will remove it with urgency when allowed to.

    If you like data, buying a continuous glucose monitor, then playing a game where you keep your glucose as flat as possible all day. The beautiful thing about this is you get instant feedback and know exactly how well your doing.

    A absolutely great resource on doing this intervention is: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb

    This is the hormonal model of human metabolism, other people have mentioned calorie in calorie out CICO - which is technically correct, but practically unhelpful. Humans are amazing hormonal homeostasis machines, the hormones need to be functioning properly. You can eat 100 g of uranium, and have trillions of calories in your body, but you’re not going to be able to use it. It’s much better to get your hormones into balance and allow the body to self-correct and stay at optimal.

    The great thing about going low carb, is you will lose that visceral fat, your blood pressure will improve, sleep will improve, pre-diabetes will improve, sexual function will improve… Basically everything, the metabolism touches every part of the body! Insulin is extremely important, getting it into control has massive benefits.

    All of this! And you won’t even be hungry! If you’re doing low carb, you can eat as much as you want, as long as you keep your blood sugar down. BBQs steaks eggs bacon cheese, as much as you like at any time. Alcohol : avoid beers, if you must drink vodka or whiskey. – all of this works because your body will be able to tell you when you’re full. Have you ever eaten a steak, and it tastes absolutely delicious at the beginning, but the more you eat it the less and less delicious it tastes? That’s how all foods should be. that’s the human body self regulating. Sugar messes that system up!

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      Interesting. I would say yes it is more hard than jiggly, kind of i between but hard to say because of my small body size overall (5’7, 130lbs). I have an extremely high metabolism. I can eat whatever and dont necessarily gain extra weight. However I don’t drink alcohol, indent drink sodas, I try* to eat pretty healthy. But I love bread. So I eat a lot of bread, pastas etc.

      Hmm. But you have opened my eyes to do some research as I never would have expected something other than exercise effecting me. When I was younger I had a flat stomach and abs and over time my belly just grew and nothing else lol.

      I’ll check the the carbs stuff, I really appreciate it.

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        Assuming you’re an adult, you’re already well inside the normal range of weight for your height. Based on that, it sounds like your eating habits aren’t terrible, so you are that unicorn that actually just needs to exercise more and you’re not eating all your hard work away. If you start feeling persistently fatigued, add a bit of carbs back to your diet. A little bit isn’t going to make your belly balloon back out. :) Good luck!

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          Based on that, it sounds like your eating habits aren’t terrible, so you are that unicorn that actually just needs to exercise more

          TOFI : thin outside fat inside : is very common! That is 100% diet based

          https://hackertalks.com/post/5592913

          Something like 92% of westerns don’t have optimal metabolic health… Which is a polite way of saying only 8% are perfectly healthy, and the rest are on the sliding scale of insulin resistance

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        Hard vs jigggily is fairly straightforward to gauge. Sit down in jeans and a belt. Bonus points if neither stretch. Poke your belly near your belt. If it’s jigggily you will be able to palpitate some skin and fat before you get to a more solid layer. To make the transition even more obvious, flex your abs. If you have no idea what I’m on about, you have a hard belly.

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          if i poke my belly and flex my abs i can feel my abs flexing with my finger. so i would say its more squishy than jiggly. regardless. going to try low carb anyways lol. thank you

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            Is there a soft layer between your finger and abs that you can press through to get to your abs? It yes, jigggily and subconscious fat. If not, firm and visceral fat. Visceral is far worse for your health and is associated with higher carb diets.

            Low carb is an excellent way to drop weight, regardless of what kind of fat you have.

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        Any time, happy to answer any questions you may have. You can look at your last lipid panel, and look at the TG/HDL ratio, if its less then 1 then your insulin sensitive, but the higher it is over 1, the more insulin resistant you are. Insulin sensitivity is the real measure of metabolic health!

        If you want to read more about this ratio https://hackertalks.com/post/5922188

        Some people who can’t do low carb do time restricted eating, or intermittent fasting, i.e. one or two meals per day. This can also improve your insulin levels, the longer you can go without sugar the better for the body. This works, but I think its doing it on hard mode, because its like edging with sugar cravings, but it works for people who can’t give up their breads :)

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            hahah, not doomed! Its a solvable problem.

            Get a GCM, strap it on, see how your blood sugar is doing! Maybe move your bread to one meal a day. It takes like 4-5 hours to get all the sugar out of the blood after a meal, so one meal + 5 hours, 6 hours a day of sugar, 18 hours a day of no sugar… Could be enough time to let your body resolve the visceral fat.

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    The human body is absurdly efficient. Fat weight is tackled by reducing calorie intake (using whatever tactic works for you). Exercise only makes a small difference by comparison.

    Edit: for example, you could jog for almost an hour to burn approx 460 calories. Or you could just not eat 1 cinnamon swirl krispy kreme. Ate two at the family BBQ? You just gave your body enough fuel to light jog for 2 hours. A large vanilla milkshake has enough fuel to keep you jogging for an hour and a half. Stop overeating first or gym weightloss is useless.

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      Exercise can burn a ton of calories, but in order to be able to do that level of exercise you have to be reasonably fit. For someone who doesn’t have a ton of stamina, I agree that diet is much more effective.

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        Exercise in someone not particularly fit is also likely to trigger a stress response and their appetite will overcompensate. Exercise is good - everyone should be doing it - but for fat loss is pointless unless eating is well under control.

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          Agree. Heck, even when I was more fit (also, younger) a good exercise session would often result in me eating more calories than needed.

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    The fact that you describe yourself as skinny and low weight suggests that this is not about calories. Do you have a high carb diet? That tends to cause fat to collect in the midsection. If you’ve ever seen starving children in Africa, you may have noticed that a lot of them have a similar stomach bulge, despite being clearly malnourished. It’s from their diet that’s high in grains.

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      I have never tracked my diet but I will definitely start doing that. However I do eat a lot of white meats, salads, yogurt is my favorite. I also eat 2 meals a day (lunch and dinner) with something like a energy bar in the morning.

      However! I do enjoy bread of all kinds as well as pastas. But I maybe eat that once a week?

      But I will most definitely check it out and get some kind of tracker and go on a low carb diet. Wouldn’t hurt.

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    Humans are horribly, miserably energy efficient.

    Seriously we evolved as exhaustion predators: pick an animal and just keep walking after it until it drops, then eat it. That’s our whole schtick. We are the goddamn terminator.

    Just being alive and breathing uses up about 1500-2000 calories a day.

    An absolute bastard of a workout will use up maybe 100 on top of that, which makes up for like a spoonful of peanut butter.

    As such, you can’t practically lose weight via exercise alone. You need to bring calories-in down to less than calories-out.

    The tricky part is doing it in a controlled and sustainable manner so you don’t just say fuck it and scarf down two whole pizzas for lunch in a week’s time because you’re hangry and don’t care any more.

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      An absolute bastard of a workout will use up maybe 100 on top of that

      An hour run burns like 600

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        At my weight (175 pounds) going 10k over an hour puts me at about this amount of calories. That’s 6.2 miles. I am in no way fit enough to be able to go that kind of distance, forget about the pace, which is sad to admit.

        At a 15 minute mile, I would burn 120 calories/mile.

        That’s not to say that you can’t burn significant calories exercising, it’s just that your average couch potato won’t be able to out of the gate. It’s far easier for me to reduce my intake by 120 calories/day than it jog a mile a day on average. Ideally you would do a bit of both.

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    Do strict keto, the majority of a beer belly is water which bonds with fat at a 3:1 ratio so when you’re burning fat as your primary fuel you’ll piss half of it out in the first month without any change in physical activity.

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    sorry for hijacking, i am also interested in the subject, commenting here to hopefully get some info. i’m 174cm / 84kg. i wear medium clothes, but my beer muscle shows up, it’s quite big. even through a sweater.

    i don’t exercise (i work in it, from home mostly), but also, i barely eat. today i had 3 coffees (no sugar, little milk), some leftover stir fry (veggies, chicken, mie noodles) and an apple, and that’s common. i don’t eat sweets or junk food.

    i cook almost every day, usually curries & rice, stir fry, pizza/pasta, soups and stews, but i rarely eat myself. i switch daily between chicken/pork/seafood/tofu/legumes for protein, but there’s always rice or pasta or bread.

    i drink a couple beers in a week (on average), i drink very little water throughout the day, maybe half a liter.

    i sleep very little too, about 5h on average (less during the week, more on weekends).

    where should i start? what’s the most blatant issue on my list? i know, all, but… what would be the first?

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      The most blatant issue is the low water intake and the low sleep. Increasing the sleep and the water will help dramatically.

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      The most blatant issue is not exercising. You don’t have to do anything drastic but adding an evening walk to your routine and changing nothing else would be really beneficial for you. If you added a few hours of walking per week and dropped the beer completely that would definitely tip the scales in your favour and you would see the weight dropping.

      I would expect those two changes would benefit your sleep too

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      You should go to your doctor so they’ll run some tests. It could be something medical and not just your diet and exercise. Plus you’ll get a baseline to compare later.

      Write down what you actually eat in a day and look up roughly how many calories it is in total. You can search ‘chicken calories’ and there are websites that will tell you how many in say 100g of chicken breast or thigh. You can use those sites to look up calories for each food item. Sometimes we don’t realize how much we actually eat. Or It could be a gland or hormonal problem which again needs medical attention.

      If you’re eating high carb, you can be building visceral fat. beer is just fermented bread. If you’ve been eating high carb, cut down to 100g of carbs per day or less. For me just cutting out the rice and making sure I had some sauce, salsa, etc to make sure the dish isn’t dry worked for me. I tried to stay closer to 50g of carbs per day, but unless you want to be a robot and eat the same dishes for 6 to 12 months, use it more as a guide line than a hard rule.

      Since your lowering your carbs, you can raise your protein and fat to feel full. No rice, bread, pasta will make your plate looks sad and empty. Fill it with veggies. I always sautee my veggies.

      As you lower your visceral fat, you’ll sleep better, which lowers your stress, which lowers your accumulation of visceral fat, which makes you sleep better, in a positive feed back loop which will give you energy and you can start taking walks. Which adds more positive feed back…

      TL;DR go to your doc. Eat more protein and veg. very little rice, pasta, bread. Try it for a month and see if you feel better

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    I agree with the comment saying that 130lbs doesn’t sound overweight, unless you’re 5’0 or under. Does your belly look obviously big to you in photos, or has anyone else ever mentioned it? Your perspective when you look down at your belly will make it look larger to you, so it might only be you that sees your belly as too big.

    Keep in mind as well that in any photos of men you see who are body building, they have often dehydrated themselves to make their muscles stand out more. If you’re properly hydrated you’re never going to look like that, even if you exercise every day.

    But strengthening your core muscles is really good for your back, so it’s probably not a bad idea to do sit ups and push ups.