The question is whether the EU can actually survive the next four years. My bet would be that there’s not a chance in hell of Trump softening his policy because he viscerally hates EU on a personal level. These people openly made an enemy out of him, and he’s a very petty man.
france and germany have a better chance at keeping their fascists out of their government than the united states; if they manage to keep that firewall up and keep importing russian energy through back doors, i can see them surviving.
The situation isn’t that dire yet IMO, it’s not amazing but things aren’t falling apart yet. I think the libs know on some level they won’t survive unless they keep the treats flowing, which inevitably means easing up on the policy against China and probably even Russia to a degree.
Seems like both France and Germany are taking a hard right actually, with RN and AfD being the most popular parties respectively. They do both want to restore relations with Russia however, and that would be a path for France and Germany to survive. However, I expect that the EU centre is going to collapse, and without either France or Germany the EU is as good as dead anyways.
the RN and the AfD were the fascists i was alluding to and i’m drawing hope from episodes like the french left & liberal voters unifying against the RN to win their last election and the german conservatives & protesters alike rejecting their leadership’s intriguing with the AfD.
The french liberals (in this case you are probably refering to Macron) didn`t really stab the left in the back since they never really side with them in the first place.
Macron knew the left coalition supposed victory was irrelevant and it can`t survive facing political impass
Liberalism is an ideology with two main parts. First is political liberalism which focuses on individual freedoms, democracy, and human rights. Second is economic liberalism which centers around free markets, private property, and wealth accumulation. These two aspects form a contradiction. Political liberalism purports to support everyone’s freedom, while economic liberalism enshrines private property rights as sacred in laws and constitutions, effectively removing them from political debate.
Liberalism justifies the use of state violence to safeguard property rights, over supporting ordinary people, which contradicts the promises of fairness and equality. Private property is seen as a key part of individual freedom under liberalism, and this provides the foundational justification for the rich to keep their wealth while ignoring the needs of everyone else. The talks of promoting freedom and democracy is just a fig leaf to provide cover for justifying capitalist relations.
In America, everything is right wing and there are no liberals. The Overton window in the U.S. is so far to the right that even basic civil rights, democracy, and freedoms that exist elsewhere are seen as radical.
Right-wingers and capitalists have rebranded their system as “neoliberalism,” pretending it is about freedom. But real freedom: civil rights and human rights, democracy, secularism, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion… they cannot exist under capitalism, where a small class rules over the majority. True democracy means workers control society, not just picking which capitalist will exploit them.
The question is whether the EU can actually survive the next four years. My bet would be that there’s not a chance in hell of Trump softening his policy because he viscerally hates EU on a personal level. These people openly made an enemy out of him, and he’s a very petty man.
france and germany have a better chance at keeping their fascists out of their government than the united states; if they manage to keep that firewall up and keep importing russian energy through back doors, i can see them surviving.
The situation isn’t that dire yet IMO, it’s not amazing but things aren’t falling apart yet. I think the libs know on some level they won’t survive unless they keep the treats flowing, which inevitably means easing up on the policy against China and probably even Russia to a degree.
Seems like both France and Germany are taking a hard right actually, with RN and AfD being the most popular parties respectively. They do both want to restore relations with Russia however, and that would be a path for France and Germany to survive. However, I expect that the EU centre is going to collapse, and without either France or Germany the EU is as good as dead anyways.
the RN and the AfD were the fascists i was alluding to and i’m drawing hope from episodes like the french left & liberal voters unifying against the RN to win their last election and the german conservatives & protesters alike rejecting their leadership’s intriguing with the AfD.
Didn’t the French liberals immediately stab the left in the back and side with the right?
The french liberals (in this case you are probably refering to Macron) didn`t really stab the left in the back since they never really side with them in the first place.
Macron knew the left coalition supposed victory was irrelevant and it can`t survive facing political impass
macron did and he’s a centrist.
Are centrists not liberal?
I don’t know how centrist translates since I’m an American and American liberalism is Western European center-right.
Fwiw: it seems so or at least a LOT of overlap.
Liberalism is an ideology with two main parts. First is political liberalism which focuses on individual freedoms, democracy, and human rights. Second is economic liberalism which centers around free markets, private property, and wealth accumulation. These two aspects form a contradiction. Political liberalism purports to support everyone’s freedom, while economic liberalism enshrines private property rights as sacred in laws and constitutions, effectively removing them from political debate.
Liberalism justifies the use of state violence to safeguard property rights, over supporting ordinary people, which contradicts the promises of fairness and equality. Private property is seen as a key part of individual freedom under liberalism, and this provides the foundational justification for the rich to keep their wealth while ignoring the needs of everyone else. The talks of promoting freedom and democracy is just a fig leaf to provide cover for justifying capitalist relations.
This is an excellent primer on the subject https://orgrad.wordpress.com/articles/liberalism-the-two-faced-tyranny-of-wealth/
In America, everything is right wing and there are no liberals. The Overton window in the U.S. is so far to the right that even basic civil rights, democracy, and freedoms that exist elsewhere are seen as radical.
Right-wingers and capitalists have rebranded their system as “neoliberalism,” pretending it is about freedom. But real freedom: civil rights and human rights, democracy, secularism, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion… they cannot exist under capitalism, where a small class rules over the majority. True democracy means workers control society, not just picking which capitalist will exploit them.