• Dudewitbow
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    Did the article just claim that sending weapons to a country asking for them to defend theirselves is an act of aggression? While the articles does make some fair points, that specific one isnt a hill that someone should die on when talking about peace when the country in question isn’t even the aggressor.

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        How is Russia a bully ? They did everything possible to try and resolve the situation in the eastern Ukraine diplomatically following the coup but their efforts were consistently rebuffed. Are you even aware of the history of the conflict prior to the start of the Russian SMO ? This war started in 2014

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          Average liberal understanding of the war is limited to “Russia invades because they are evil, therefore Russia bad.”

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            It’s the other way around though, isn’t it? When you ask them why the US is in this or that country, they either defend it or tepidly claim to oppose it. Yet I’ve never seen liberals call americans orcs or call for nuking it for what they did to Iraq, Afghanistan or many others they don’t even know about. So it can’t be “Russia bad cause invaded” since they don’t apply that to worse invaders and were calling for the destruction of Russia before the invasion.

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        In 2014, Ukraine pretty much started this whole mess. There’s a common misconception that everything began with Russia’s involvement.

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          You are aware that Russia put pressure on Ukraine to reject the Political Association and free trade agreement, which hs already at that point in time, passed parliment nearly unamimously before the president at the time decided to go against the Parliment. Parliment went to vote out the President at the time and he asked for Russian aid. To say that Ukraine started it when a single rogue actor defied the will of its constituents is a bad take.

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        yeah, how dare china mediate a conflict instead of blindly throwing expensive weapons at ukraine no matter what they’re being used for and who they’re being used by.