With regards to supporting Israel, at first it was fine (since the last attack) but how they can continue to support a regime conducting genocide upon Gazans is beyond me. However, in many UN calls for the conflict to end, it was ever only the US that voted in favour of Israel. I don’t think they abandoned the rules, its just that a rules based worked order is only as reliable as those who enforce it
It does seem to me that a rules based world is not viable (for now) because none of the big players actually follow the rules. Ex: China for a while has not followed trade rules and subsiquently neither has the US (since they became scared of China’s rapid development). With trump 2.0, the world policeman is starting to look very fascist which is not a situation any EU leader could have fathomed a decade ago.
If anything, the EU has been trying to bolster the EU as an entity inorder to protect itself. It’s just not everyone in the EU agrees on that course and due to the unanimity requirements, things just can’t change. Since the end of WW2 Europe has been a vassel for the US and even until now that’s not markedly changes even if it’s gotten a little more difficult with the creation of the EU.
That being said, if the EU cannot finally get their shit together then I agree with your last point, they will be eaten alive by the US and China
At no point was the genocide in Gaza fine. People have a tendency to just arbitrarily pick a point in history, such as the October 7 attack, and ignore everything that led up to it. The crimes against humanity have been going on for decades, and the west chose to look the other way.
That’s very fair, I wasn’t clear enough that I meant it was fine to support Israel in the fact they are allowed to protect themselves. Every country has that right.
Unfortunately, the Israeli’s have gone crazy with the leeway the west has left for them. It’s also funny that though the EU supports Israel overall, they still send lots of aid to Palestine cause they recognise that Israel is destroying that part of the world
After WW2 they were given some land. Of course the powers at the time didn’t give a shit that Palestinians were already living there which is why we are in this mess today.
But if you look back to what happened to the Jews during WW2, it’s no wonder they were given something as a “sorry this happened to you, here’s some land you wanted”. I’m not saying it’s right (definitely how it panned out is not) but given that was their wish it’s not surprising it happened. It is very ironic that they have become the very beast that was persecuting them
With regards to supporting Israel, at first it was fine (since the last attack) but how they can continue to support a regime conducting genocide upon Gazans is beyond me. However, in many UN calls for the conflict to end, it was ever only the US that voted in favour of Israel. I don’t think they abandoned the rules, its just that a rules based worked order is only as reliable as those who enforce it
It does seem to me that a rules based world is not viable (for now) because none of the big players actually follow the rules. Ex: China for a while has not followed trade rules and subsiquently neither has the US (since they became scared of China’s rapid development). With trump 2.0, the world policeman is starting to look very fascist which is not a situation any EU leader could have fathomed a decade ago.
If anything, the EU has been trying to bolster the EU as an entity inorder to protect itself. It’s just not everyone in the EU agrees on that course and due to the unanimity requirements, things just can’t change. Since the end of WW2 Europe has been a vassel for the US and even until now that’s not markedly changes even if it’s gotten a little more difficult with the creation of the EU.
That being said, if the EU cannot finally get their shit together then I agree with your last point, they will be eaten alive by the US and China
At no point was the genocide in Gaza fine. People have a tendency to just arbitrarily pick a point in history, such as the October 7 attack, and ignore everything that led up to it. The crimes against humanity have been going on for decades, and the west chose to look the other way.
That’s very fair, I wasn’t clear enough that I meant it was fine to support Israel in the fact they are allowed to protect themselves. Every country has that right.
Unfortunately, the Israeli’s have gone crazy with the leeway the west has left for them. It’s also funny that though the EU supports Israel overall, they still send lots of aid to Palestine cause they recognise that Israel is destroying that part of the world
So, Russia has a right to protect itself in the territory of Ukraine that it occupies too then?
The territory they occupy in Ukrain is not theirs. They literally gave it to the Ukrainians during USSR era.
Similarly to how the land Israel occupies is not theirs either
After WW2 they were given some land. Of course the powers at the time didn’t give a shit that Palestinians were already living there which is why we are in this mess today.
But if you look back to what happened to the Jews during WW2, it’s no wonder they were given something as a “sorry this happened to you, here’s some land you wanted”. I’m not saying it’s right (definitely how it panned out is not) but given that was their wish it’s not surprising it happened. It is very ironic that they have become the very beast that was persecuting them