• Rojo27 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    For both Israelis and Palestinians, the sealing of a cease-fire has spurred joy and celebration but it has also come at a price for both peoples.

    Israel decided to absolutely decimate Gaza, tried to wage a multi-front war in the region, and now occupy parts of Gaza and southern Syria, but consider the cost for both-sides

    After using Gaza as a springboard to launch the deadliest attack on Jews since the Holocaust, Hamas still controls most of the territory, allowing its surviving members to parade jubilantly through several Gaza cities after the truce began. For Israelis who still seek the group’s complete defeat, these scenes were a gut-punch.

    Still using this dumbass line about the worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust in the face of Israel accelerating its genocide of Palestinians over the past year.

    Others could stomach Hamas’s survival if it led to the release of all the hostages still held by the group in Gaza. But the compromise reached by Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, only guarantees the release of a third of them. Even those will be freed at a high price — in exchange for prisoners convicted of some of the most notorious terrorist attacks in Israeli history, in addition to scores of women and minors held without charge.

    How nice that to this point the author keeps on talking about how some of the Palestinians being released have killed settlers, only to bury the fact that there are many who are being held hostage for no reason, including children.

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      I can’t believe media still gets away with describing detained Israelis as “hostages” while describing detained Palestinians as “prisoners”.

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        One of the things that converted me from a two-state lib to a supporter of Palestinian liberation were videos that a former college aquantince would post of IDF soldiers kidnapping kids that were no more that 15 years old. Shit was sickening and anyone that refuses to acknowledge that truth is a fucking monster.

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      ‘Deadliest attack since the holocaust’ is a very loaded statement that doesn’t indicate how deadly the attack itself was. The first Jewish person to be attacked an die as a result after the holocaust is also the deadliest attack since the holocaust even if it’s one guy. Hamas didn’t do an almost holocaust like this implies.

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        It also is incorrect. In Argentina, Perón led the Dirty War against a disproportionately Jewish group of leftists and killed 1,900 to 3,000 Jews. But he was backed by the US and Israel so naturally this just is memory holed.

        Also, to this day there is no disambiguation of how many of the 1200 Israeli deaths in Oct 7 were civilian or military, nor how many were killed by Hamas or Israel due to Hannibal Directive friendly fire.

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          nor how many were killed by Hamas or Israel due to Hannibal Directive friendly fire.

          You can’t ask that question, you antisemite! /s

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            If a Zionist shoot a Jewish guy with a really big gun, the Zionist has the right to posthumously take away the victim’s Jewish identity and twist the situation so they’re the victim somehow.

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      For Israelis who still seek the group’s complete defeat,

      This is being bloodthirsty. You understand that, right? It’s not like a fun thing and it’s different than a cost like a load of bread costs resources. If you experience combat I’m sure you either revel is violence or, more commonly, go “this sucks, actually.” You are trying to make us feel sympathy for your desire to sacrifice people to kill people. You’re trying to make excuses for the terror.