Finally a distro has me tempted into considering moving from Arch which I’ve been using for almost a decade (kudos to the CachyOS devs on a job well done!).

But one of the things I love about Arch is that I choose what is and isn’t installed and after my spouse installed Cachy (also previously on Arch) I can see a number of apps come pre-installed (like Meld).

Is there a list somewhere of what CachyOS installs by default so that I can uninstall it post-install? Or is there a minimal install ISO somewhere that I’m missing that just installs the Cachy ‘tweaks’ and Cachy-specific apps (like Hello) + a DE?

I have considered converting my Arch install to Cachy but since this install is 3+ years old now, it would be more difficult to find and get rid of all the tweaks I’ve made here and there than just start a fresh CachyOS install and remove unwanted packages.

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    Do you guys think people affiliated with a distro make fake posts like this to drum up interest in their product?

    That must have happened at least once on these forums, right?

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      Yeah, probably, but this one doesn’t seem obviously fake. It could be, but it also could be real. I’ve never heard of this OS, so I’m assuming it’s not popular.

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      That’s a very cynical take on things :( I’m not sure why the Cachy devs would want to do that when they could just post, “Hey, here’s our distro, come take a look or try it out”. This is a FOSS community and they’re a FOSS product that people make in their spare time, not some huge for-profit trying to squeeze as much out of folks as possible.

      I would think a post of me gushing about how I switched to CachyOS after a decade of Arch and how much amazeballs super excellent wonderful blazing fast easy to use easy to install blah blah blah would be more of a red flag than me asking what specific extra packages are installed lol.

      But I realise that since these times are so full of fake posts, here’s a pic or it didn’t happen: https://i.postimg.cc/DZsdcmwJ/Screenshot-20250122-101326.png

      And yes I realise I could fake this too but there’s only so much time I can be bothered putting into proving that I’m asking a legit question and posting a screenshot is it. Take it or leave it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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      It’s possible, but unless you can prove it, you’re just blindly casting aspersions. Appeal to possibility is a logical fallacy.

      Do you guys think people affiliated with a distro make fake posts like this to drum up interest in their product?

      I’m sorry, “fake posts like this?” Do you think this post is fake? If so, why?

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        It’s possible, but unless you can prove it, you’re just blindly casting aspersions.

        Not really. If it’s fake, it’s fake. Proof isn’t necessary for that to be the case.

        Do you think this post is fake? If so, why?

        Yes, because I wasn’t born yesterday.

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          Not really. If it’s fake, it’s fake. Proof isn’t necessary for that to be the case.

          Yes it is. Realness or fakeness is not a subjective matter of opinion.

          Do you think this post is fake? If so, why?

          Yes, because I wasn’t born yesterday.

          Your personal incredulity is not valid justification. Either you have proof why you think it’s fake, or you’re making irrational claims.

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            Yes it is. Realness or fakeness is not a subjective matter of opinion.

            Right. We’re not talking about ‘opinion’, we’re talking about ‘proof.’ Even if we can’t prove a post is fake, it still can be. If you need further explanation than this then I cannot help you.

            Your personal incredulity is not valid justification. Either you have proof why you think it’s fake, or you’re making irrational claims.

            I can tell you were born yesterday.

            Gonna block you now, because I know you’re never going to stop replying to me. It’s how you people try to cover up shilling.

            Goodbye.

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              Even if we can’t prove a post is fake, it still can be.

              Literally the definition of Appeal to Possibility. “It could be, therefore it is.”

              I can tell you were born yesterday.

              Gonna block you now, because I can tell you’re never going to stop replying to me. It’s how you people try to cover up shilling.

              Ow, my poor feelings. /s

              Exactly what I’d expect from somebody who broadly claims a post is fake but can’t provide the receipts. Somebody calls you out, and you call them stupid, double down, and run, instead of engaging honestly.

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    I tried it. Didn’t found noticeable performance increase for me to daily drive. Biggest turn off for me was their bloat. Ended up going back to EndeavourOS. Funny enough exiftools performed better on EOS (only by couple of seconds).

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    Partners with cloudflare to stand on top of arch’s shoulders. Seems sus to me. Why is this better than arch? They forked Firefox and also stand on top of librefox’s work with unclear additions.

    Seems someone just wants to look good on top of others’ work. Oh but they compile a bunch of different kernels with random scheduler settings to really give you that edge.

    I’m being unfair but what are the benefit of moving to cachy and why would I want to use something supported by cloudflare. I don’t trust cloudflare any more than Google or Microsoft at this point.

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      to stand on top of arch’s shoulders

      Ubuntu is standing on top of Debian’s shoulders then. So is Kali, CrunchBang, MX Linux, Deepin, Rasbian, Tails, etc. Linux Mint is standing on top of Ubuntu’s shoulders which are standing on top of Debian’s shoulders. As is KDE Neon, elementaryOS, Bodhi, Pop!, Zorin, etc. Fedora and RedHat are standing on top of each other’s shoulders. Bazzite, Asahi, Alma, Rocky are standing on their shoulders.

      EndeavourOS is also standing on top of Arch’s shoulders. So is Artix, Majaro, Garuda, Archbang and let’s not forget SteamOS.

      That’s how FOSS works. And you do realise that it’s not a one way street right? They all contribute up and down stream… because again, that’s how the FOSS community works.

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      Standing on top of others’ shoulders is the entire deal of distros (and Linux, more broadly), no?

      I don’t know anything about Cloudflare vis a vis CachyOS (the politics of business melts my brain), but supposedly Cachy offers a speed boost for certain tasks. When I’ve used it, it feels as snappy as a Debian install I use.

      For some, it may not offer them much of a difference. It’s not going to be a “leaps and bounds” difference either way, but it allows people who don’t want to optimize their packages manually and don’t want to optimize and build their own kernel the opportunity to experience the potential benefits of those things.

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    Is there any meaningful difference between installing CachyOS and installing Arch but setong up the CachyOS repositories and using CachyOS’ kernel? I did the latter, and things seem to work fine

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        I did seem to gain around 10s in a compilation workload that takes just under 2 minutes (after the switch), but I didn’t perform any actual benchmark

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    You can boot from the cachyos livecd and install it the arch way that way you have fine grained control over what is installed, I believe that you have to modify the livecd pacman.conf to add cachyos repos other than that is pretty much the same as a arch install.

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    It really doesn’t install anything you wouldn’t install yourself. The only thing I removed post-install was the Fish shell. I’ll stick with Zsh and Ksh thank you. I’m on Cachy, I’d be happy to help if you need anything.

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      Yes, there are a number of apps (including my example of Meld) that I would install anyway. But a list is nice anyway just so I can curate things the way I like them. :)