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This is what a good app does to a MF.
I tried self hosting Pixelfed but gave up because it wouldn’t work. I’m used to Docker containers that are able to just start up by themselves, but the guide didn’t work for me. Maybe it’s time to try again.
Make sure you use a MariaDB or MySQL database. Despite what the (very incomplete) docu says, Postgres support is broken.
Happy to see!
I wondering what caused such jump.
Because news broke that Meta lobbied for the TikTok ban. So people are now boycotting Meta platforms like Facebook and Instagram. Since Pixelfed is an Instagram clone and recently launched the app, it has gained a ton of popularity. The timing of the app launch honestly couldn’t have been better, because it gave all of the fleeing Instagram users a nice convenient place to land.
I just signed up after seeing an article saying links to the website are being blocked by Instagram (IIRC). I figured it must be worth looking into if they’ve gone that far
They released an official all on the app stores
I think it’s been out for a while.
Anyways, when I try to log into the main recommended server (where I already have an account), before I even get to the login page, it gives me this error
Which is a pretty funny thing for the official app to say about the official main instance 🤣
Instead I just installed the PWA from the browser. It works ok.
lol i search pixelfed and first result is Rednote, thanks Google play!
Lies, damn lies, and graphs that don’t have the Y-axis starting at 0.
10% growth in a day is nice, but far from a revolution. Let’s see this trend going for a month.
the head dev Dan Sup mentioned the number of active users jumping from 6k to 30k. we’ll see how it holds, but there is strength in numbers, people only stay if other people see what they post there. i have good hopes and really want to ditch instagram
Wake me up in 2 months when 80% of new users churned.
I’ve never been on IG but I’m strongly considering a pFed account. Am I churn or am I miniscule net-new?
And yeah, it’s a hope that the rumoured meta toxicity is somehow magically not on pFed. I wanna see my nephew’s designs and art but not the influencerati junk I fear is on the captive platform.
Monthly active users increased by 43% between 13 and 14 January: https://pixelfed.fediverse.observer/dailystats
I don’t think anyone here is arguing that the entire world will be using pixelfed by the end of the year, and that its usage will expand to other galaxies by the end of the decade.
It’s a comment about the current growth curve, and it is both accurate and interesting.
Lemmy had the same jump in numbers during the Reddit Exodus. Mastodon had a huge boost when Elon bought Twitter.
Every spike has been a followed by a slide back to baseline in less than a couple of months. After you’ve seen it happen so many times, it is no longer interesting.
I don’t think that either Mastodon or Lemmy slid back anywhere near as far as back to baseline? Sure, usage went down, perhaps even significantly compared to the peaks, but I think that both retained a lot more users than they had before their respective spikes. I’m an example of someone who came into Mastodon with the Twitter exodus and into Lemmy with the Reddit exodus, and I’ve stayed for both.
I don’t mean that the numbers went exactly back where they were. I mean that every spike was followed by a steady decline.
Compare it with Bluesky now, or compare it with Reddit during Digg’s meltdown. Their growth curves will look like an S-curve, not this series of discrete jumps followed by 40-60% loss.
Got it, thanks.
Cool. You… don’t have to engage in discussions that bore you. Why waste your time?
The fact that you believe these platforms were the same before and after these events makes it sound like you were not, in fact, there to see it happen. In my experience, it permanently changed both platforms, transforming them from weird niche sites to genuine alternatives.
That said, what you find interesting or not is not any of my business.
This thread (and others in that post) might interest you: https://communick.news/post/2320430/4138857
Yeah, I know I shouldn’t bother. I am just annoyed by the misconception that all graphs should always start in 0 on the Y axis, as if it was some law of nature. Shouldn’t allow myself to get dragged in further. :)
I am here since before the Reddit backout and I am on Mastodon since 2018. Lemmy was at 15k MAU, went up to over 125k and now is 1/3 of that. Mastodon had
1M575k something before Elon, hit up close to2M1.5M and now is sitting around 800k. (edit: I was looking at the overall charts and used wrong figures. Corrected now.)Sure, if your reference point is waaaay before the spikes then what we have now seem “a lot”. However, my point is that these spikes are far from being indicative of mass adoption.
Lemmy was at 15k MAU, went up to over 125k and now is 1/3 of that.
So it increased by 200%
Mastodon had 1M something before Elon, hit up close to 2M and now is sitting around 800k.
This stat is really surprising. Do you by any chance have a link where I can see this data?
The y axis starting zero does not change the fact that it’s exponentially growing right now. Filter that link posted below for 120 days and it is still a nearly straight vertical line of growth.
It’s not exponentially growing. At best, the growth rate has exponentially increased. These are VERY different things.
It was exponentially growing, the platform would come screeching to a halt and crash.
Jesus fucking Christ, you people are miserably pedantic. Nothing about my original post is wrong, so please kindly shut the fuck up with your “well achtually” takes.
I’m not sure if people are pedantic or sarcastic at this point
They seem to be serious. The more concerning thing is that people are agreeing with them. I guess common sense is not so common.
I got the same criticism about a similar graph a while ago. Numbers are on the left, people can clearly see how big of a change the graph shows, and I have no way to present the graph differently as it’s straight from the website, but people still want to argue about it
Tbf graphics like that are commonly used to be deceitful, because people don’t actually check the numbers on the left.
But in this case I think it probably doesn’t matter lol
And then tell you’re throwing a tantrum when you get annoyed by it.
Ah, the classic response to being proven wrong on the Internet. Have a hissy fit like a 5-year-old and call everyone pedantic etc. You were objectively wrong but there’s no problem with that, everyone is wrong about stuff all the time, the difference is how you handle that. You either act like a mentally grown person and just go “oh, damn, I didn’t know that, thanks for correcting me” or act like you’ve done. No one is out to say that pixelfed isn’t growing, but you’re misrepresenting facts and then being a fucking child about being told so.
Actually, pedantry is correcting people for things that didn’t actually need correcting because everyone understood the meaning from the context, so there isn’t any reason for him to thank you because you didn’t actually do anything of value.
I’m not calling everyone pedantic. I’m calling you and the other guy who chimed in with pedantic takes pedantic. You can claim you’re right all you want, but nothing about the title of the post “Pixelfed user count has gone vertical” is inaccurate. Whether it’s the user count or the user growth rate that is exponential is irrelevant. Nothing about my post is misrepresenting the fact that on the graph, the number of users is going nearly straight up, exactly as the title describes. Feel free to keep trying to correct me, but I know I’m right because I have eyes and can identify basic shapes. I am very willing to admit when I am wrong, but this is not one of those cases.
The only thing worse than misrepresentation of statistics is completely misguided criticism of statistical representation.
While we’re at it, the X axis doesn’t start at zero either.
It’s the perfect combo of karma farming and “well, achtually” to make your blood boil. Good thing karma isn’t a thing on here from what I can tell.
There’s no karma on Lemmy
Did higher karma increase the boots of your upvote on reddit?
No, but there were some karma requirements on some subs. And you could resell high karma account to advertisers as they would seem trustful
To be fair, the Y-Axis doesn’t start from zero.
That being said, 10% account growth in 2 days is pretty solid. Let’s hope both account creation and engagement metrics (MAUs/DAUs) keep growing.
EDIT: Correct Axis type.
Pedantic: You mean Y-axis, right? Technically, neither start at zero but I think you meant Y based on context.
No, all time based graphs should start at the big bang.
I actually wish this were true. Sure, they would show the snippet for the time we care about, but they MUST provide the source graph that contains all data back to the Big Bang. Specifically the Plank Era, we don’t want a graph where time doesn’t exist, that would make the graph useless.
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Yes, of course the Y axis.
I work with charts/vizualizations/data a lot, but for whatever reason I reflexively mistake X/Y a lot. It’s not even funny.
I make the same mistake all the time for some reason, though I know which is which. I have a theory the reason is that the X axis is often used to plot years (Y), which messes with my brain ever so slightly.
That said, I don’t think the Y axis should necessarily start in zero in a graph that seeks to show the pattern of growth rather than the number of users in absolute terms. If anything, a longer X axis would have been more useful, in order to show how unusual such a growth pattern is.
Y has a vertical part, just like its axis. X is the other one.
This is like a weird personal thing that I can’t even explain. For whatever reason, the Y axis becomes labelled as X in my mind in random situations. And I use charts (and other data visualizations a lot).
The funny thing is when I am thinking of X, I don’t have this urge to call it Y. If I am looking at horizontal, X is the first thing that comes to mind. But not with Y.
Isn’t that a 1‰ growth or am I mathing wrong?
Edit: I’m wrong and that’s why I shouldn’t comment first thing in the morning. The math is mathing, I’m just not braining.
Its ~12%
You are mathing wrong. The GP is correct, except for the fact that it applies to the Y axis.
(… it’s a much smaller change on the X axis anyway, something with 10 zeros before the first non-zero digit…)
One percent of 300,000 would be 3,000.
Starting the y-axis zero wouldn’t change the shape of the curve at all, but it would make the increase seem less dramatic.
It’s a ~10% increase, but the scale makes it look like the count shot up by 10x at first glance. I know that’s why you always need to look at the axis labels, but graphs like this are purposely presented this way because they’re easy to misinterpret for the average person.
It was an error on my part.
Just a FYI, Dan who made Pixelfed also does Loops and a few other Fedi projects in case people want more cool stuff to play with.
What is the general outlook on others helping him build them out? I would hate to see tons of the energy dissipate because it was one guy trying his damnedest to out compete tech companies on two fronts.
I don’t really use Instagram, but I might give Pixelfed a try. Does anyone know if it’s also a left-wing echo chamber like Lemmy?
Lemmy is a left wing echo-chamber? I thought it was a Linux wing echo chamber?
tomato patato
God I hope so.
I don’t need a bunch of bigoted shit echoing around in there with us.
I’ve mostly seen pictures of landscapes and animals, so not as much
That’s cool.
I signed up, though I generally don’t like following individuals and much prefer groups or communities like Lemmy. Gotta support independent social media.
I found following hastags I’m interested in to work better for me.
This also works really well for Mastodon. Gets your feed going super easily.
this is probably the intended method to use mastodon, if you’re trying to follow individual accounts you’re just gonna suffer.
I also found actually taking time to find an instance that you vibe with (in my case, jorts.horse) really helps to keep stuff interesting in your Local timeline. As a bonus, it also furthers decentralization :)
Yeah I was on Fosstodon first. Moved to Sakurajima (Sharkey) and now I’m on Sakurajima (Mastodon) .
You’re right, the instance makes a big difference. Very important to find one you enjoy.
I wish they would put the official app on F-Droid. I use PixelDroid, but it’d still be nice to try.
the official app is much slower and less polished than PixelDroid and Pixelix.
they do have their own F-droid repo, though https://fdroid.pixelfed.net/fdroid/repo
Pixelix just showed up on F-Droid two days ago, the dev open-sourced their code just recently. I find it to be a “better” (subjective :) ) client than PixelDroid after testing it for a bit. $0.02 to any readers. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.daniebeler.pfpixelix/
It has dark mode, btw.
Apparently the official app has a few dependencies that themselves depend on Google Play services, hence being blocked for F-droid inclusion.
I used Obtainium to get it
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Oh no, Metas profits!! How will they live in a slightly better world now?
By blocking all mention of Pixelfed on their platforms.
Wow, how pathetic.
… oh
@Evil_Shrubbery @korendian I hope they perish, a truely evil corp. They ones ecperimented with making folks depressed because depressed people are more sensitive to impulse buying.
Impressive indeed
Both sites have different monthly active users numbers, but between 42k and 52k is quite impressive
That’s a lot of mastodon users. And misskey is more popular than I thought.
does anyone know why this sudden uptick?
Streisand effect. There’s a news story going around about Meta intentionally deleting links to Pixelfed: https://www.404media.co/meta-is-blocking-links-to-decentralized-instagram-competitor-pixelfed/
I’m sure Zuckerberg’s recent comments are helping as well.
Meta recently decided to viciously lick Trump’s ass by, among other things, allowing hate speech on their platforms.
Not everyone is impressed.
Combo of terrible moderation rules changes by meta, the release of the pixelfed app on Android and iOS, and coverage of that app by major tech news outlets.
Along with people being unhappy with Meta, and the looming TikTok ban, Pixelfed just now released apps for it.
Meta has changed their ToS. Prior, you could not accuse someone of being mentally ill without consequence. Now there is an exception allowing shitty people to accuse someone of being mentally ill if they are gay or trans. It’s seriously fucked up.
Also, Mark Zuckerberg, the ostrich fucker, removed the fact checker from Meta services.
Ostrich… fucker?
Yeah, I wondered the same thing, and found the answer: https://ifunny.co/picture/mark-zuckerberg-who-fucked-an-ostrich-announces-meta-will-stop-d9KZTB25C
In this, the worst timeline, I am glad that there is no need to add “allegedly”, as Zuck is clearly an alpha degen.
What are you supposed to put in the “server url” field in Pixelix? I put the instance I have an account on, because I don’t have any other information that would make sense to put there, but nothing happens when I tap the arrow.
Also, what the fuck, fediverse. It’s exactly this kind of bullshit that’s why nobody joins you. Fix it for Christ’s sake. Something this unintuitive doesn’t even belong in a beta build. If I was a paid instagram plant making this app to frustrate people into going back to instagram, this is the splash screen I’d use. Stop making it impossible to recommend you in good faith to people I like.
I don’t know about that app specifically, but I know some fediverse apps do not have all instances in their directory. For example, fedilab doesn’t have friendica.world. I would suggest hunting around for an app that supports your instance, but I agree, it is a dumb problem. What is the point of being able to join whatever instance you want if it is not listed on the app?
I still can’t get a loops account.
It still doesn’t have a webapp that was supposed to ship weeks ago. The android app is buggy, laggy and doesn’t allow direct capture from the camera. I’d say loops is not ready yet.
nothing much on there from what I’ve seen, has potential though
It’s still early. It’s not even federated yet, just more or less a 1:1 tiktok clone.
Can’t get popular if you can’t download it easily.
