Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Tuesday he would tolerate no corruption or treachery in affairs of state while his country is struggling to find the means to defend itself against Russian invaders.
which by some weird thought process becomes a pro-Russian position.
I am a communist and the prevailing attitude in most circles I am in is not an explicitly pro-Russian one, it’s just not explicitly pro-Ukraine either. There is a also an underlying understanding of the reasons why the war started. Just because you don’t support one side does not mean you have to 100% uncritically support the opposing side. The sooner we stop thinking of everything in black/white terms of Team A vs Team B, we will be a lot better off.
Now there are those who have nostalgia for the USSR, which is not the modern Russian Federation, but it’s fairly niche. Usually people understand that modern Russia is not the soviet union. There are the patsocs too, but we don’t really claim them.
I am not the Official Spokesman of Communism, but those are generally the attitudes I have seen in most of my circles.
Fairly niche? Most of the lemmygrad people are outright idolizing every totalitarian ‘marxist’ regime of the past century.
I totally get left ideology and do agree with Marx’ ideology, but I’ve never understood how simping for autocrats fits into that.
When I read that Lemmy had an active communist group I was looking forward to that, but the vehemence of the debate and the apologetic whitewashing of history really turned me off.
So yeah, please a debate that isn’t so black and white is very welcome imho.
Communists are very against fascist Russia. It’s just a small totalitarian-minded group masking as communists here who support Russia or some honeypot/psyop
Why not? No doubt it’s way easier to set up a bunch of bots accounts here than somewhere like Twitter or Reddit. They don’t even have to worry about looking legit because most of the users here are new accounts.
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I am a communist and the prevailing attitude in most circles I am in is not an explicitly pro-Russian one, it’s just not explicitly pro-Ukraine either. There is a also an underlying understanding of the reasons why the war started. Just because you don’t support one side does not mean you have to 100% uncritically support the opposing side. The sooner we stop thinking of everything in black/white terms of Team A vs Team B, we will be a lot better off.
Now there are those who have nostalgia for the USSR, which is not the modern Russian Federation, but it’s fairly niche. Usually people understand that modern Russia is not the soviet union. There are the patsocs too, but we don’t really claim them.
I am not the Official Spokesman of Communism, but those are generally the attitudes I have seen in most of my circles.
Fairly niche? Most of the lemmygrad people are outright idolizing every totalitarian ‘marxist’ regime of the past century.
I totally get left ideology and do agree with Marx’ ideology, but I’ve never understood how simping for autocrats fits into that.
When I read that Lemmy had an active communist group I was looking forward to that, but the vehemence of the debate and the apologetic whitewashing of history really turned me off.
So yeah, please a debate that isn’t so black and white is very welcome imho.
Communists are very against fascist Russia. It’s just a small totalitarian-minded group masking as communists here who support Russia or some honeypot/psyop
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I don’t know, they seem pretty capitalist to me
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Why not? No doubt it’s way easier to set up a bunch of bots accounts here than somewhere like Twitter or Reddit. They don’t even have to worry about looking legit because most of the users here are new accounts.
Yeah I agree with the other guy. Easier to trial run bots on Lemmy then when things are looking “better”*** move them to more mainstream sites.
***Just less shit