A Cybertruck ‘blew up’ outside Trump’s hotel in Las Vegas

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              He was almost defeated by a glass of water and a slight incline the last time he was president and his brain is pretty clearly Swiss cheese.

              Good healthcare has its limits.

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              Even the best health care is only as good as the patient’s willingness to listen to an expert. Unless there’s some poor intern being tasked with wrapping Donvict’s meds in cheese so he’ll swallow them, that might not matter.

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              More money does not mean better treatment per se. The standard of care is the same for rich and poor. He may be able to get more doctor opinions and have an easier time getting meds/etc. though.

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                  “Oh, I see that you’re a rich - come with me to the executive wing of the hospital where we keep the cures”

                  No - the standard of care is not defined based on who or how much you have. You treat the same disease with the same treatment. Rich people can just afford treatments easier.

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                Per se is doing a lot of work there. Sure, if the rich person and the poor person chose the same insurance company and the company doesn’t deny coverage to the poor person (it doesn’t matter for the rich one, since they can afford it) they could get the same coverage if they have equal quality hospitals nearby and the rich person is happy to be treated by their nearest in network hospital

                But poor areas have worse hospitals

                And when the rich one is president of the united states that one also has a staff medical team, and access to military medical units, and a plane and helicopter on hand to move him

                Just regular rich have access to faster transport to better hospitals than the 99% can have

                But yeah, on paper, ignoring effects from socio economic status and where the 99% live versus where the 1% live, versus where the .001% live it’s all equal

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                  Per se is doing a lot of work there. Sure, if the rich person and the poor person chose the same insurance company and the company doesn’t deny coverage to the poor person (it doesn’t matter for the rich one, since they can afford it) they could get the same coverage if they have equal quality hospitals nearby and the rich person is happy to be treated by their nearest in network hospital

                  Thank you - that is my point and only my point. There is not “special medicine” that presidents get like all of Lemmy seems to believe.

                  The rest of your post is my third sentence…

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    Wait, your telling me this was on purpose? I just thought the cyberjunk was so shit, someone visiting the building just HAPPENED to blow up

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      The vehicle’s battery was not damaged and did not catch fire.

      The cargo area was full of fuel and explosives - in the form of firework mortars.

      Explosives and fuel make a good fireball and fire. Fireworks being a 2 stage explosive (launch and pretty explosion), they may have expected the initial bang to disburse the fuel and the second to detonate it as a fuel/air explosive which would be very damaging, enough to take down the building.

      Obviously were that their goal they did not sufficiently test. The vehicle contained the initial explosion and all they got was a fire

      And the blast and fire exited through the passenger cabin, killing the driver. I hope it wasn’t a valet.

      I wonder if it was triggered accidentally early or badly set up and detonated on its own or remotely triggered too early.

      I bet they thought they’d light up the battery. Poor quality bombers

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        Poor quality bombers

        I’ve seen a source (poor quality source, won’t quote) that identifies the likely suspect as a former green beret. Also, CNN says:

        Authorities suspect that the driver had a background in military service, according to several law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation.

        They should not be poor quality bombers. In fact, they should be able to build a decent bomb by heart in several ways, if they learned anything at all.

        I’m at loss regarding what this guy actually intended to happen, and whether he achieved that.

        • Hypothesis A, inspired by claims of links to the New Orleans attack: failed terrorist suicide bombing?
        • Hypothesis B: intended to do big time vandalism and live, but something went wrong?
        • Hypothesis C: some sort of a suicide pact?
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          Military experience doesn’t necessarily equate to McGyvering. I did a tour as an Army scout. I can shoot a lot of weapons, use knives and other non pyrotechnic weapons, set-up mines, claymores, use plastic, even creative uses for mortar rounds and grenades, but we were never given training on things like making bombs out of windex and a mars bar

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            Military experience is so random sometimes. I was in the regular, not special in any way, infantry and came away with how to do everything for an IED from make the ANFO, to putting it together, and how to hit a moving vehicle with it. To be fully honest it was also quite a while ago and now some of it is pretty vague in my head. But I would be unsurprised to find out other people kept notes from those days.

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          The presence of fuel suggests he wanted to do major damage but did not know how to properly capitalize on it’s use. Sadly special operations guys are at high risk for CTE stuff. So it’s entirely possible he was living a distorted reality.

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      There are reports of a firework mortar and gas canister in the back. Looks very intentional and showy from the video. Stupid way to end one’s life, but that was part of it I think as well.

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    The weirdest thing about a cybertruck bomb is that the world has become so shit that it’s not even interesting. Like, I just cannot care because every day something insane happens.

    That’s the real fucking signal IMO.

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    It’s like the opposite of early-2000s games, where the car models had an ever-growing poly count but the fire was still an animated 2d sprite.

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        The explosion looked like it included fireworks and the fire looked like a liquid fuel fire - movie explosions are petrol (gasoline) bombs

        The vehicle contained it all pretty well, with the main exit for force and fire was via the window between the trunk and the cabin

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    Says a lot that like nobody knew what to make of it until the propane tanks were found.

    Its still unclear if the driver intended for it to explode or if somebody tossed a bunch of flammables in the back and the truck lit it.

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      Thinking this through, they probably filled the car with gas until they couldn’t breathe and then hit the firework mortar to set it all off. Also gives them a higher chance of ending it all then, as opposed to the “oops, all fire!” version, which would have been a lingering way to go.

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    The glass doors right next to the vehicle look intact in the image, so I can’t imagine that the explosion was very large.

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      I don’t think it actually “exploded”, just caught fire. So you know, standard behavior for a Tesla.

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        There’s a video out now. It definitely exploded, but from my amateur digital forensics it looks like it was the result of a trunk full of fireworks instead of the car itself. I could be wrong.

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            The front door manual door releases for all current Teslas are on the door, right next to the opening button.

            You are right about the rear doors though - they are hard to find if you don’t already know.

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    That entrance doesn’t even look 2nd rate, it looks more like a 3rd rate hotel.
    I thought Trump liked things to look expensive, but this looks like it’s built with the cheapest of the cheapest standard parts available.

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      this looks like it’s built with the cheapest of the cheapest standard parts available.

      That’s on brand for Trump. A thin veneer of flashiness hastily slapped onto a decaying carcass.