I’ve been out to my friends for years but I had fears/brainworms about presenting that way at work. As a result, I kept everyone at arms length and was generally pretty cold and closed off to everyone, which made me a shitty communist. But I finally managed to overcome that and find a new job (just some temp warehouse work) with my preferred name and presentation, which I just started today!

So I come in with a batch of new hires, ready to turn over a new leaf and start socializing, and wouldn’t you know it, there’s a guy awkwardly hovering around me! Perfect! I know awkward hovering because I’m an awkward hoverer myself, clearly, he wants to be friends but is too shy - so I introduce myself, and we get assigned to similar areas and sit together on breaks. “Making friends is so much easier as a woman!” I thought, a fool.

This guy starts simping hard. Starts asking if I have a boyfriend, takes a big interest in all my hobbies, stuff like that, but the big kicker was he’d been talking about how much he’d prefer being on a different shift so I suggested he ask someone about it but then he’s like, “But then I wouldn’t get to see you.” BRO. catgirl-disgust

Also, he’s 19, and I’m in my 30’s. Ew libertarian-alertcringe

I’m not sure if he’s aware I’m trans or not, I usually assume people can tell but idk and it’s not on some people’s radar. Not sure which is worse.

Overall, I’m still happy about being able to present the way I want at work and I’ve been unemployed for a while so I’m glad to be making money and the job’s not too hard. But as far as workplace socializing, I kinda feel like I just traded one problem for another oooaaaaaaauhhh

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    no it’s a fair question. I’m not trying to inherently tie it to that, just using it as an age ballpark based on my personal experience because most people in my country attend college as soon as they finish high school. I’ve simply never had to make a judgement like this with someone who wasn’t in education. if someone didn’t go to college my line would be the same… purely anecdotally I went on a date with a 20yo when I was 23 and decided I would never do that again… wasn’t a morality thing! we just had very little in common. and I’m older now.

    it’s not the college that makes the difference, it’s just being Not A Highschooler for a few years in my view. obviously there’s no numerical line we can point at, all I really wanted to say is that I think, at least given our current sociological environment, 19 is too young to be dating a 30yo. someone who dodged college would be getting presumably just as rich of an expanded life experience (probably more so in plenty of cases), my point is just that at 19 I think most folks are basically still a high schooler and very socially stunted. I just think a bit of a “learning actual independence” grace period is needed after high school, not saying it should be mandated by law just that’s the way I see it. a couple of years.

    once 20s hit things change, fwiw I was just stating my personal view of who I would date there, not trying to say the age of consent should be 24 lol. “real adult” was meant to be tongue in cheek but it may have come across wrong. I should have been more clear about that, and also that it wasn’t the education at all that was the key factor, just the few years of escape from high school/true independence.

    so yeah, sorry if I was like, painting everyone with the broad brush of having gone to college, that was a little narrow-minded, I was just using it as a catchall for age demos but I probably shouldn’t do that. i also can acknowledge I have some Catholic brainworms on this issue broadly that I probably should try to work out before seriously discussing it in future. raising the age of consent is probably regressive in some ways in reality and I don’t advocate for it… but I also think until capitalism goes in the trash can and our social structures and mores get some revolutionary overhauls, it’s a challenging topic to approach and discuss in a revolutionary mindset. hope that makes sense. +sorry it’s kinda a jumbled mess of thoughts.

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      purely anecdotally I went on a date with a 20yo when I was 23 and decided I would never do that again… wasn’t a morality thing! we just had very little in common.

      ralsei-wut Well fair play, albeit I can’t imagine that small an age difference making the difference. Although I often had little in common with people around my age so Idk.

      Otherwise I find this pretty agreeable as a view, the focus on learning actual independence and not being a highschooler, yeah. Your bit about “someone who dodged college would be getting presumably just as rich of an expanded life experience” actually makes me wonder if going to college in the normative, american sense, (as in everything paid for etc etc) lets people kind of keep being sorta highschool students for a few years, and put off that actual independence and “adulthood”…

      not trying to say the age of consent should be 24

      I actually do wonder if that’s a consensus people have come to, honestly, and if so I have very mixed opinions about that but can kind of see the argument, I think. It seems like a lot of people do feel this.

      Otherwise no need to clarify, ty for replying & sorry if I came off as weird. It’s a pretty thorny subject, I just wanted to know about the framing you used but this is a very considered mess of jumbled thoughts, so thank you again ✨

      i also can acknowledge I have some Catholic brainworms on this issue broadly that I probably should try to work out before seriously discussing it in future.

      Oh that doesn’t sound fun, hope it’s not hard when you do :|

      raising the age of consent is probably regressive in some ways in reality and I don’t advocate for it… but I also think until capitalism goes in the trash can and our social structures and mores get some revolutionary overhauls, it’s a challenging topic to approach and discuss in a revolutionary mindset.

      Yeah I mean, so much of what can make age gaps problematic is financial and living situation related right? Obvs not all of it but capitalism does play into it a lot. Which, this sucks :|