The right to exist is worth fighting over and people should be pissed at her for surrendering on our behalf. Access to bathrooms is fucking important and her statement even manages to make that sound trivial.

All the 4d chess political maneuvers are a poor excuse, I remain disappointed.

There was no immediate reaction from most House Democrats, including leadership

Pathetic, and frankly her going along with it is not much better.

Just disappointed

There was no immediate reaction from most House Democrats, including leadership

“those leftist rubes not voting for my party, well jokes on them cause I just imagined the other guys doing worse”

I’m not looking forward to Trump, but this is the path the Democrats paved by their own actions. Blaming the voters is not a real strategy for anything other than nursing bruised ego.

I agree

Thank you for the demonstration

I can understand why you as one of the primary beneficiaries of a system of exploitation would be reluctant to upend it, but it seems it has removed any capacity to imagine a better outcome, let alone work towards it.

Those who don’t move don’t notice their chains.

Cherry picking, I said it was an appeal to futility, as well as a false dichotomy. There’s plenty of other outcomes besides one of the two warmonger parties winning- like elections get cancelled due to Biden launching nukes on Jan 6 '25 to stop the steal. Just because one of the shitty parties is obviously going to win it’s still a worthwhile endeavor to oppose them, rather than just accepting whatever garbage they serve up.

wow, dogshit party will get elected in the hitlerite country, amazing insight, I can see why you get paid the big bucks

Supporting a political party that has been participating in a genocide is supporting genocide, the Democrats have been a genocidal regime worse than any in my lifetime

See you in 2028 when the Dem or Rep wins again.

appeal to futility, false dichotomy 🤓

I’m a cis white male who makes ~$250k/yr.

opinion discarded

Trying to run a third party is the only viable reformist track- the democratic party is totally unresponsive to reform attempts- recall how Obama personally intervened to stop that last time. He even dismantled his own electoral apparatuses after his first run.

The endpoint of the lesser evilism voting is that you’re browbeating people to not protest vote and instead vote for one of the two parties, both promising more genocide, one of which is directly implicated in an entire year of it so far.

To any outside observer ( the people you’re trying to sway) it still looks like you support them and everything they’ve done.

I was using ‘you’ rhetorically rather than accusing you of anything. IDK how you see that as a hostile one. I’m just explaining why people get rubbed the wrong way by the the vote blue brigade.

If you are demanding everyone vote for the people bypassing Congress to send more bombs to the obviously grotesque war criminal country, people are gonna think you support them, because you are.

classic blue maga behavior - any structural critique must be met with tribal-style ad hom: “yeah well you probably just support kang instead of kodos.”

Republicans are worse than democrats in general, but on this issue they really are the same.

It’s frustrating how shitty Republicans can be and yet Democrats still insist on adopting all their positions and getting endorsed by them.

If you look at the x axis it may not be new to the fossils running our government, but it’s new to anyone under 40, Harris massively underperforming with young people is pretty directly that.

I voted PSL actually, and I don’t even use tiktok.

That you’re running into the same opinions on there too indicates that this is a broader sentiment and that if younger people are complaining about blue maga it could be a behavior/performance issue from Democrats rather than regarding propagandists on a niche forum poisoning everyones minds.

I doubt that my many international readers had any impact on the election.