The words "deny," "defend" and "depose" were discovered by detectives on the shell casings found at the scene where Brian Thompson, the CEO of major insurance group UnitedHealthcare, was gunned down

abc [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net · 8 days ago

The words "deny," "defend" and "depose" were discovered by detectives on the shell casings found at the scene where Brian Thompson, the CEO of major insurance group UnitedHealthcare, was gunned down

ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net · edit-2 8 days ago

feels cool, but we need to see this moment and energy from a broader perspective. If this just ends with everyone being “that was cool” it’s not enough. Instead, as the debt collective noted, medical debtors (and others harmed by this evil system) need to organize.

After all, eventually CEOs will just hire tons of goons and private security. So as cool as this was it’s not sustainable and violence is only effective coupled to a movement. I’m thinking of my here - when he discussed violence it was always as part of a larger mass movement, not simply wielded by random adventurers.

Of course this doesn’t mean we can’t seize this moment and this shock to begin to organize and deploy real power. I need to reread all of Lenin on the adventurism, but does he ever talk about being opportunistic about this stuff?

Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.net · 7 days ago

I think Lenin and the gang did more bank robbing and stealing weapons than assassinating people pre-revolution.

Murple_27 · 7 days ago

I need to reread all of Lenin on the adventurism, but does he ever talk about being opportunistic about this stuff?

The general Marxist (there wasn’t a “Marxist-Leninism” when Lenin was alive) sentiment at the time was that acts of “terror” (what we’re calling adventurism) are fundamentally individualist acts, and aren’t really worth pursuing unless they are both extremely popular, and exist as adjuncts of a broader mass-movement.