I find it’s pretty much impossible to engage with people who still think Ukraine can either win or negotiate better terms by prolonging the war. No matter what you say, they’re just going to counter with that.
It’s going to be easier to talk about this once the war is over and Russia has won. At that point, they will have to grapple with the fact that Ukraine is objectively worse off than it would’ve been had it taken the deal two months into the war. Once that’s established, then it’s possible to start talk about whether the west actually helped Ukraine in the end.
I find it’s pretty much impossible to engage with people who still think Ukraine can either win or negotiate better terms by prolonging the war. No matter what you say, they’re just going to counter with that.
It’s going to be easier to talk about this once the war is over and Russia has won. At that point, they will have to grapple with the fact that Ukraine is objectively worse off than it would’ve been had it taken the deal two months into the war. Once that’s established, then it’s possible to start talk about whether the west actually helped Ukraine in the end.
I hope we make it to that point (my brain is probably cooked from all the news about the recent escalation and I’m overreacting, but still)
I am hoping we don’t all die in a nuclear holocaust, but if that’s the way things go then we won’t have to worry about much else at that point.