• guojingOP
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    3 years ago

    What an interesting wikipedia article about Jenin Camp. Apparently the refugees just appeared out of thin air. No mention where they come from, or what forced them to flee from home. Its time we leave that propaganda website behind.

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      3 years ago

      It links to the article Palestinian refugee camps, which fleshes out that subject. What would be the point of duplicating the information when everything you need to know is a click away?

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        3 years ago

        Thanks for proving my point, even that article doesnt have a single mention of the word genocide.

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          3 years ago

          Applying the term genocide to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict would be shaky, given that there is no consensus among experts. It would be a clear break with the Neutral Point of View policy.

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              9 months ago

              I’m not sure why you’re replying to a two year old comment, but whatever. I was talking about Wikipedia policy. It’s not going to take a stance using an emotionally charged and poorly defined word like genocide unless there is an expert consensus. And no, an individual or even a high ranking official going on a bloodthirsty rant doesn’t make for a genocide. Instead, Wikipedia has an article that specifically covers the Palestinian genocide accusation very thoroughly from a neutral, well sourced, and historical prospective.

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                  9 months ago

                  Again, I’m not taking a stance on that here. I’m pointing out that when it comes to Wikipedia, it has to reflect expert consensus and be well organized. Where there is not a consensus, the opinions of individuals are presented. Wikipedia editors are expressly forbidden from synthesizing stances in articles.

                  Speaking of South Africa’s presentation, the ICJ has not ruled that what is happening is a genocide. It ruled that Israel must take care to prevent genocide, among other things. It’s effectively the ICJ version of an injunction. So there again, one set of reasonably neutral experts have not made a ruling.