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    18 days ago

    Years ago in the UK people elected ukip for our EU representation as a protest vote. There are famously anti EU.

    As a result they skipped important votes and really fucked us.

    And I thought that was ridiculous.

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      Protest votes make zero sense! You’re always fucking yourself over.

      In the latest UK general election I knew I couldn’t vote for the 3rd party because of FPTP, so I voted for the major party whose policies represented me the most.

      I’m not happy with some of their decisions, but overral it could have been a lot worse.

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    No, no. They just REALLY REALLY care about genocide. Haven’t you talked to any of them? IF you vote, you’re voting for genocide, so you better not vote! Voting is for fascists, obviously.

  • PlasticExistence@lemmy.world
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    Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.

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    Everybody please go vote! That said, I just don’t think it is nihilism.

    Some of it is accelerationism - the idea that the worse the ruling class treat people they closer society gets to a revolution that will improve things drastically more than voting for dems would. I think that’s flawed, but it’s not nihilism.

    A lot of it is propaganda. Oligarchs on both sides of the bering straight have been ploughing cash into amplifying any messaging that will depress left turnout. This isn’t nihilism, it works because people believe things - we are social primates and conforming with a group is essential for our survival.

    And a small amount is people who have legitimate emotional reasons, like relatives killed in israel’s genocide. Not voting doesn’t help that situation, but that emotional reality is not nihilism.

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            Ah i see where you were going for now.

            Optimistic nihilism would argue you can create and derive meaning yourself from knowing it doesn’t matter on a bigger level.

            Anyway philosophy is so subjective i fail to see the point in labeling non-voters specifically nihilist in the post

            Have a nice day.

          • GluWu@lemm.ee
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            18 days ago

            Bro, just cuz nothing matters doesn’t mean you gotta be mean.

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            Depends on what they are a nihilist about. Most nihilists are existential nihilists, who believe life itself doesn’t have an inherent meaning. It doesn’t mean they believe life can’t have any meaning. They can still believe other things can give life meaning or that they can create their own meaning for life.

            Nihilists don’t believe nothing about anything matters. It doesn’t mean they believe their suffering or the suffering of others doesn’t matter.

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    17 days ago

    Being a nihilist does not make you self defeatist. I’m a nihilist, and I still believe in cosmopolitanism. I’m voting Kamala and then protesting immediately after. That’s the nature of the two party system. I’m alive, I’m a person, and I give my life and those things meaning. We can still fight.

    I think the big issue is that a lot of people feel like their vote doesn’t matter because they’re not in a swing state. They definitely matter, especially locally.

    Edit: well today fucking sucks

    • BodePlotHole@lemmy.world
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      Same here. Just because I believe nothing matters, doesn’t mean I want other people to suffer.

      Nihilism ≠ Hate