Candace Fails screamed for someone in the Texas hospital to help her pregnant daughter. “Do something,” she pleaded, on the morning of Oct. 29, 2023.
Nevaeh Crain was crying in pain, too weak to walk, blood staining her thighs. Feverish and vomiting the day of her baby shower, the 18-year-old had gone to two different emergency rooms within 12 hours, returning home each time worse than before.
The first hospital diagnosed her with strep throat without investigating her sharp abdominal cramps. At the second, she screened positive for sepsis, a life-threatening and fast-moving reaction to an infection, medical records show. But doctors said her six-month fetus had a heartbeat and that Crain was fine to leave.
Now on Crain’s third hospital visit, an obstetrician insisted on two ultrasounds to “confirm fetal demise,” a nurse wrote, before moving her to intensive care.
By then, more than two hours after her arrival, Crain’s blood pressure had plummeted and a nurse had noted that her lips were “blue and dusky.” Her organs began failing.
Hours later, she was dead.
Fails, who would have seen her daughter turn 20 this Friday, still cannot understand why Crain’s emergency was not treated like an emergency.
But that is what many pregnant women are now facing in states with strict abortion bans, doctors and lawyers have told ProPublica.
Death after death after death. The GOP death cult is doing its job.
I have been saying anti-abortion instead of pro-life. But I feel like there must be another simply-expressed term to reflect their thinking. Something along the lines of anti-women or just anti-choice. I dunno.
Forced birth
Yeah but in cases like this, it was forced death.
It’s absolutely anti-choice. The party of small government (except when it comes to controlling people).
government small enough to fit in your pants
Forced-birth and anti-autonomy are other options that may be useful. Sex-punishers is another one.
Honestly, it is all about sex punishment. In the conservative mind, getting pregnant is a consequence of sex - and if you need an abortion, then you shouldn’t have had sex. It’s that simple to them.
They don’t think in terms of medical problems or grey areas. Just: had sex, got pregnant, deal with the consequences.
And by the way, men don’t deserve punishment for sex because it’s their nature and prerogative, but women do.
Anti-women’s-health
I’ve always used anti-abortion. Pro-life just isn’t an accurate descriptor, and a “pro-life protest”, or a “pro-life bill” seem like undeserved euphemisms considering what they want. Outlawing executions would be a pro-life bill.
Anti-choice is good too.
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Jesus Christ dude. Turn off your phone. Walk outside. Get some fresh air
Not dying from a miscarriage at 20 doesn’t mean you have good genes, it means you’re lucky. Teen pregnancies (she had just turned 20) are more likely to have complications because their body isn’t finished developing yet.
The millions of years preceding modern medicine didn’t fix it, so I’m not sure how much time you eugenicists think evolution takes
Absolutely horrifying.
The second ER diagnosed her with sepsis and then sent her home because her fetus had a heartbeat.
I’m disgusted. If you are a woman, you need to get the fuck out of these death trap states. It is not safe for you there.
The second ER diagnosed her with sepsis and then sent her home
That right there should be criminal charges. Pregnancy staus is irrelevant at that point. Sepsis will kill you if untreated.
It was the politicians in Texas that harmed this woman. Not the hospital. The Texas AG sent letters to every hospital in Texas saying he would press criminal charges to anyone granting an emergency abortion. As hard as it is for poor and middle class workers, there’s no way any nurse doctor or hospital is going to put themselves in front of the Texas government. If they could they would have left the state already. (many have.) Small towns in forced birth States literally have no pregnancy care facilities because the staff has all left.
Just following orders.
But they saved the “baby” right?
But they “saved” the “baby” right?
Fify - the baby didn’t make it.
…they said it may have been possible to save both the teenager and her fetus if she had been admitted earlier for close monitoring and continuous treatment.
There was a chance Crain could have remained pregnant, they said. If she had needed an early delivery, the hospital was well-equipped to care for a baby on the edge of viability.
Imo it’s premeditated murder.
It’s one of the main reasons I got a vasectomy
Maybe don’t let your conservative colleagues know that. They tend to think less of men who get vasectomies for some reason. That could negatively affect how you are perceived at work. Just FYI, from a guy who spent a lifetime working with these cunts.
I tell everybody as soon as they ask me if I have kids and I live in a very, very conservative area. Fuck em.
Luckily everyone I work with are liberals. Remote jobs are pretty nice.
I’ve known (or dated) a few conservative men who refused to get vasectomies because they “lower testosterone”. And, of course that means they’re less of a man (to themselves and others who think that way).
Is that even true?? You still have your balls, the sperm just doesn’t have an exit route anymore. Like, biology is weird as shit, I could see that somehow causing testosterone to drop slightly for some weird ass reason, but I’ve never heard of it.
It is absolutely not true. A vasectomy cannot lower testosterone.
Unfortunately, conservatives are opposed to science, so the research on this topic will be ignored by them.
I figured, but man, they’re always learning weird new shit about the body, lol.
The funny thing is the dudes worried about low T don’t know T that is too high (according to your body, not according to what you want) just converts to estrogen… which you would think they would be a lot more concerned about, given their anxieties about being too feminine!
Lol, I did not know that! That’s good to know!
I should have put that in quotes to avoid confusion. I’ll edit :)
Stop saying “died” - Another woman was MURDERED by ignorant texas bigots in their government and spiteful, irresponsible, freedom-hating voter base.
cruz, abbott, patrick, gohmert, cornyn and cock-eyed Ken the AG, along with trump, corrupt SCOTUS majority and the whole gop giving them cover, are soaked in this woman’s blood.
She was a white woman, literally named heaven HEAVEN backwards, and she’s still dead, you absolute cowards that voted to enable this. Y When will you realize that you’re not safe from this, you’re not different, you’re not “one of the good ones” that will see some protections others won’t. Go have someone read a short poem to you, commonly referred to as, “first they came for”. There will be plenty of words in there you don’t understand, but the gist is, YOU OR YOUR DAUGHTER ARE FUCKING NEXT UP - this dead teenager, who never saw her 20th birthday, is the latest Handmaid they throw on the wall as an example to others of what’s coming.
There won’t be an official announcement when christian fascism takes over your area or else there would have been one a while ago.
We all predicted this would happen because we have a basic understanding of the world and a smidge of empathy. Unlike Republicans.
This is the future the Republicans want.
Hate to be that guy, but it is also the present (hopefully not future) the Democrats have allowed Republicans to build:
Bill Clinton promised to codify Roe v. Wade into law. He didn’t.
Obama promised to codify Roe v. Wade into law. He didn’t despite having a super-majority in his first two years.
Biden promised to codify Roe v. Wade into law and didn’t. The Dobbs decision was taken in June 2022, so before the midterms when Democrats still had a simple majority in the house and a tie + VP in the senate. When there were rumors/leaks a month or so before the decision that the USSC would take that decision soon. Again: Inaction.
Yes, they had many chances and failed. But these new laws are NOT anyone’s fault but republicans.
They didn’t fail. They didn’t even try. Not even with a super-majority.
I am sick of such important issues like health of people, let alone half the population, being used as mere strategic play. So please push them to do the right thing, after they’re elected. They don’t seem to respond without pressure.
I’m sure you’re more politically astute than Obama or Pelosi but even with a supermajority Roe v. Wade wasn’t predicted to be murdered under the administration of a russian plant who spiked FBI investigations into the corrupt justices the republiQan controlled Senate waved through after they lied and claimed they though of Roe as settled law.
Democrats are absolutely to blame for not fighting harder, absolutely, but overturning Roe was not supposed to get any support much less 75% of all republiQan women who have had multiple opportunities to oppose it and do not. If one is to legislate like one should many, many, many things would need to change.
My point being it’s not as simple as you make it. And when people jump to “yeah but Democrats are to blame” I know we’re usually already in Bad Faithville. Both Sides and all that. NO.
And when people jump to “yeah but Democrats are to blame” I know we’re usually already in Bad Faithville. Both Sides and all that.
Just no. This is not about both sides in any shape way or form. This is about agency. Fact is: There were ways to do this and the last three Democratic presidents (including the sitting president) have campaigned and outlined plans to codify it into law and didn’t. Yes it may have taken people by surprise that the country and the world is regressing as early and fast as it is, but that doesn’t take away agency, especially when they didn’t even try to spring to action after mere lip service to garner votes.
The thing is: The conservative, religious right, openly formulated and has been following their plan of judicial activism for decades. The lower courts haven’t become this biased towards Republican policy over night. It was due to bad luck, bad faith acting of McConnel and the other Republican senators and stubberness of some involved people on the other side of the aisle that Trump was able to nominate this many people to the USSC. It would have happened at some point.
Where were all the pro-lifers? Oh, that’s right, they only care about you before birth. My mistake.
Literally just had an argument with a born again Christian who didn’t want tampons in bathrooms… because tax payers would have to pay and it was the parents responsibility
This guy though has no problem with collecting the pension from tax payers or the church not paying tax.
So he’s fine if we remove all toilet paper from bathrooms. How he wipes his ass is his parent’s responsibility right?
Funny you mention that, because that’s actually the argument I brought up.
Even better , toilet paper is stored in the dirtiest part of the bathroom. Tampons they can store at the sinks
The people that voted for this shit have the biggest blinders on right now. I’m sure they’re trying to ignore that anything has gone wrong.
I hope someone with enough money to make this a problem for the policy makers gets after this in court soon. The USA needs to either pass a federal law stating that abortion is legal, or they need a new roe v. Wade judgement on the books. Until one of those things happens, this continual and unnecessary loss of life will continue; it is inevitable.
For people who call themselves “pro-life” they sure don’t give any shits about people continuing to live.
Anyone who is anti abortion, this is for you: 🖕
Sincerely,
- your horrified neighbor to the north.
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i think everyone should move to texas and vote out the conservatives
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Mort of the people in Texas don’t support this. More over nearly a majority do not have the means to fight this nor leave.
This is why I’ve turned against economic sanctions. Texas will still get federal tax dollars, though.
I’ve even unsubscribed from TX based content creators.
At least ask them how they vote, or tell them! Haha
I made it to the J’s before I found a company there was even a chance I might support, and it’s the worst of the sandwich options near me that isn’t a subway.
Sysco was the next one and that’s just because if you go to a restaurant, chances are pretty good they’re getting their food from Sysco.
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What do you think this will accomplish lol
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Ken Paxton, the Texas Attorney General who is primarily responsible for the present situation, used to be my local state senator.
I specifically kept my voter registration in Texas during my college years so that I could continue to cast my vote against him. There is nothing good to say about that evil man.
I like Texas, and I hope that at some point we figure out how to govern it in a sane way, because I unfortunately cannot recommend living there right now.
Around 1 in 5 pregnancies, that’s 20%, end in miscarriage. There’s a bit of a genetic lottery that is random within this crazy sensitive process of creating a baby. You can be doing everything right, but it doesn’t matter. You can lose the pregnancy and many do. And then, statistically, their next pregnancy is healthy and without complication.
There’s no fault to a person in this progress, just like there’s no fault to how a flower grows - some have more pedals, some have crooked stems, some never grow and stay seeds in the ground. Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is akin to them having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
Ignorance and fear rule the red areas on the US map. Of course those red areas are populated predominately by trees, lakes and mountains, all of which are likely more intelligent and empathetic than the few frightened human voters spattered throughout that share that very rural landscape.
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy
Texas didn’t kill her for loosing a pregnancy - Texas killed her by making her losing the pregnancy take too long by terrifying doctors out of speeding the process along, causing her to be in and out of hospital ERs repeatedly while doctors essentially played “hot potato” with her despite all of them knowing what needed done out of fear of being thrown in prison for a century if they did it, causing her to eventually develop sepsis and die.
It’s much, much worse than “killing her for losing a pregnancy”, and exactly how awful it is and how it got to that point needs to be spelled out in detail. Otherwise you’ll have people pointing out that the Texas law has an exception for medical emergencies, and it needs pointed out and doubled down on that by the time the doctors were reasonably certain that a conservative Texas court would agree with them it was a medical emergency (aka she’d already developed a systemic infection), she was already doomed.
The sentiment is there, but 1 in 5 ending in miscarriage is not 1 in 5 that would be deadly if a miscarriage happened.
Also, that number is known miscarriages (and is the high end i believe of the range). Even more happen before the mother even knows they are pregnant.
Part of the reason you don’t tell people before the first trimester is over is because miscarriages before are common.
Respectfully, I don’t know where you are pulling that equivalence from? I don’t believe I said 1 in 5 would likely die from losing a pregnancy? The extreme of what’s on the table being discussed is that Texas wants to overtly punish people for not being perfect fetal vessels - denying needed medical care and charging for crimes if they accuse that a miscarriage was coerced as determine by unqualified, backward religiously driven opinion.
As you raise the point though, that “would be deadly” mention is dependent on the unknown of what happens when you deny basic medical maintenance to “common” conditions. Many miscarriages require medical abortion, regardless of how “smooth” they progress, to clear any remnants of the fetus from the uterus and avoid complications and dangerous bleeding, infection, etc that could harm that person or their womb and decrease chances of successful implantation, pregnancy and birth in the future, if desired. It’s a horribly painful and emotional process, something that nobody enters into lightly and that often is required for willing parents to be having difficulty conceiving and dealing with that loss, on top of everything else mentioned.
Respectfully, I don’t know where you are pulling that equivalence from? I don’t believe I said 1 in 5 would likely die from losing a pregnancy?
Ummm dude
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is akin to them having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
You totally did, and this is what triggered my response.
What are you talking about, friend? I feel like you have a fundamental disconnect here… Do you not know what “akin to” means?
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is akin to them having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
Akin to
very similar to something
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is very similar to having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
Your equating the 1 in 5 miscarriages to having a 1 in 5 chance of death but 1 in 5 miscarriages do not have a chance of death very similar to being shot if you roll a 4 on a 5 sided dice which is a 1 in 5 chance of death.Edit: Just cleaning this up as what I wrote got confusing…
Your saying that 1 in 5 pregencies have a miscarriage (20%) and equate a miscarriage that happens 1/5 times, to being shot 1/5 times which would be death. But an (edit untreated) miscarriage doesn’t mean death. So it is not very similar to having a 1/5 chance of death by being shot.
Maybe you don’t know what you wrote?
I mean, Texas wants to make miscarriage a murder charge and they are a death penalty state, so there’s that. There’s some hyperbole to make a point in original statement, but If it makes you feel better, Texas is currently forcing you to play Russian roulette if you land on that 4 - doesn’t change the spirit of the point being made. A gun is being put to your head with a meaningful chance of death.
You’re arguing semantics here to avoid discussing the substance. Say something meaningful about the actual point or shut up at this point.
I love how post something very wrong, challenge it twice and ask if i even know what some words mean, which you clearly didnt, and then wave off how wrong you are and tell me to shut up.
I even said the sentiment is there.
What a jerk, you must be fun at parties
I have a suspicion that a mother who named their daughter Heaven backwards might have agreed with the Republicans up until the time it affected her daughter.
I wonder if her stance on this has changed now.
Or perhaps it’s backwards because she’s aligned with the devil! You just really can’t tell and you shouldn’t go around making those kinds of judgemental assumptions.
It backwards because they think it’s clever.
Fully agree.
Also I can’t hear that name anymore without thinking about Kitboga.
What a bigoted thing to say.
He’s not wrong lawl
He could be, we don’t actually know “lawl”
Backwards heaven? Texas? Safe bet.
That’s literally the definition of biggotry.
Lol, no it’s not
Enlighten me.
This is exactly the goal of force birth policies.
Women who don’t survive are considered weak and must be cleansed for Republicans’ perfect society. It’s eugenics. Killing women is the point, in the minds of Republicans every woman who dies deserves it.
Recalled this case that is getting public attention in Mexico. Queretaro, a state in the Bajio region of Mexico known by its conservative ideas, is using their attorneys to try to make a 14 yo child to pay 26,000 USD in damage repair to her rapist, because she suffered a miscarriage. The state attorneys also demand her to go to prison for three years.
Publicly, and in the media, the girl is known as “Esmeralda”. I’m sorry I couldn’t find a note in English about this case to link. The thing in common between both situations is a corrupted institution that’s supposed to protect the people.
politicians killed this girl as surely and as gruesomely as any serial killer.
Probably the Zodiac killer, Rafael Cruz.
Damn right, she didn’t “die because of a medical condition”
She was murdered by misogynists
Not sure how doctors can willingly comply with this shit. Seems antithetical to the Hippocratic oath.
It’s the sort of systematic coldness that comes with procedure. Like even at that last place where she got to the ICU, the nurse “insisted on two ultrasounds to confirm fetal demise”. So clearly the hospital has tried making some “reasonable” procedure, and the nurse wanting to confirm thought “we’ll just quickly get this out of the way” or something.
It’s horrible seeing politics and especially religious political views causing such regression in our modern age where it’s completely needless.
It’s the fear of losing everything that gives these people pause. I hope I’d do better in that situation, but I don’t know what it’s like to face losing everything you worked for in your life as well as your freedom.
The people to blame are the monsters who created these laws.
If you preform the needed procedures your a felon, subject to hundreds of thousands in fines and multiple years of jail. While clearly the net moral shing to do is save the life, its a stupid choice to put on anyone. The laws are evil and so are its supporters
Yeah, it is. And then they think they can afford the thing theyre doing, because they don’t see the sum of all of the others doing the same to the patient.
I’ve experienced something… similar. Not on the same scale, but still.
The banality of evil.
Those doctors are cowards. They can’t jail ALL the doctors, it would be a disaster. They need a union or something. I don’t know ANYTHING is better than letting kids die!
Here is the oath, so it’s iffy. They have no problem with charging exorbitant costs, financially, physically and emotionally, for the training, though.
they justify by saying they can do more good outside a jail. Possibly true. Possible jails need more doctors.
Pretty simple when the alternative is prison
