You would hope that federal agencies would be the last to abandon using actual currency.
I checked their site, you can’t buy parking using just the website, even a monthly one. But you sure can pay your parking tickets! (although even that requires a credit card it seems)
That man is beyond the hands-on-hips pose that other Ottawa based articles all use.
One of the modern mysteries I can’t quite get is people caring so much about paying stuff with cash. Are people out there paying for gas using cash as well? How many people have a car and don’t have a credit card or smartphone? So many questions…
How do you imagine elderly people that don’t really understand technology would cope with downloading an app or going to a web site to pay for parking.
How can you not have the empathy to think of people that might struggle with things. So many questions…
How do you imagine elderly people that don’t really understand technology would cope with downloading an app or going to a web site to pay for parking.
Using a card. If they’re able to drive, they’re probably able to carry a card and tap it. Maybe it’s a failure of my imagination but I can’t conceptualize someone being able to drive and park a car and yet this same person can’t use a card.
Edit just to clarify: the article mentions “a smart phone with a credit card to pay for parking” specifically, and I guess it’s my fault for going a bit off topic without a more explicit disclaimer. I don’t think a smart phone should be required for anything. I’m just curious about the anti-cashless movement in general, because a smartphone isn’t the only alternative to cash.
This is just conjecture on my part, but I imagine people are against a completely cashless society as it gives companies and the government more information about us than they deserve.
Do I want the government or credit card companies knowing everything that I spend my money on, where I parked my car etc. people should be allowed to be anonymous if they so choose and paying cash allows this to some extend.
Plus, how am I gonna buy my weed if we go cashless, back to dark web and waiting two weeks for delivery, 😩.
Ever had a moment where you needed to go buy groceries but couldn’t pay because the payment system is down nation wide?
Many people did many times and if you don’t have cash on you, well you can’t pay for shit.
A cashless society is not a good thing. And that is especially dumb since a merchant can’t refuse legal tender, but the federal government is refusing legal tender by doing this.
Ever had a moment where you needed to go buy groceries but couldn’t pay because the payment system is down nation wide?
Never. If it did happen, it’s almost certain that I wouldn’t have the cash on me to pay for it anyway 🤷♂️I’d rather not walk around with more than $100 in cash on me.
since a merchant can’t refuse legal tender
Where does that come from? AFAICT there’s no law that requires businesses to accept cash as a form of payment. Not in Canada, at least.
You are right about the fact that businesses are not legally obligated to accept cash. I was wrong on that.
As for e-payment not working, it happened to me at least 3 times since last year, and it fucking sucks.
I don’t like to walk with a lot of cash on me, but if I know that there is a outage of payment systems, I can at least use the cash I keep at home to pay for my basic needs.
More options is good in any case. We are already tracked enough as it is, so I understand people that want to use cash.
As for e-payment not working, it happened to me at least 3 times since last year, and it fucking sucks.
Wow, I see. I would not have estimated that many.
I happen to prefer not to always have my location tracked by a cell phone company or my transactions recorded by a credit card issuer. The ability to be anonymous is a vital component of freedom. Plus, you can still pay for things in cash if something has wiped out all local network connectivity. And yes, I have been known to pay for gas in cash—not always, but now and again (and an EV doesn’t need gas, anyway, so that question is increasingly irrelevant).
I do not require or expect other people to have the same priorities that I do.
An EV… So a car that’s tracking you? 😂
Also literally every car. Why the hell is my sexual activity in the privacy agreement KIA?
Nah, a converted electric milk float. 🤣
Right… that’s about what I imagine someone fighting against cashless is like. You actually pay for gas in cash and you don’t have a smartphone with Internet.
Kind of ironic that you’re excited about EVs, though.
Kind of ironic that you’re excited about EVs, though.
“Excited” isn’t really the word. It’s more that I acknowledge the inevitable. Even if we ignore the damage done by burning it, the world supply of gasoline is finite, and the extraction and refining process is not only messy, polluting, and making many parts of the world beholden to countries with bad human rights records, but also has chokepoints—a relatively small number of large refineries—that are increasingly at risk as the climate gets worse. Better to get off it before we’re forced to do so one way or the other.
When I decide to visit a park and arrive to find that I can’t pay cash, it’s a problem. Visiting a park is a transient event, there does not need to be ANY permanent relation between myself and the park operator. There is no reason to require trusting some random site with payment details, generating another set of account credentials, and installing some mystery app that wants way too many permissions just to visit a park.
There is no reason to require trusting some random site with payment details, generating another set of account credentials, and installing some mystery app that wants way too many permissions just to visit a park.
But those are all details that pertain to a specific type of digital payment. Like I said in a different comment, sign me up for better digital payment options and increased privacy guarantees. Sticking to cash is not the only way to achieve this.
Do you like the idea of all our payments for everything going through a private duopoly who takes a cut of every transaction?
We don’t have a digital option that’s open or private.
Do you like the idea of all our payments for everything going through a private duopoly who takes a cut of every transaction?
I don’t, so sign me up for the fight for better digital options. In fact I frequently advocate for a BoC-managed alternative to Interac. Even the US with its ridiculously contrived banking system is already working on it (FedNow).
But I don’t see the need to wait for that, we can go cashless AND work on better digital options simultaneously.
The closest thing we have to a private digital cash that is not crypto is GNU Taler.
All good, I’m ditching going downtown because it’s pointless to go there. Everything closes at like 3, or it’s some shitty bar. Why bother with a downtown anymore. Literally everything I want or need is walking distance
Me me me, amirite!
What are you talking about. I WANT those businesses open past 3pm…currently they only cater government workers who were forced to go back downtown to suppose the businesses that refuse to cater to the neighbourhood.
Why bother with a downtown anymore. Literally everything I want or need is walking distance.
Kinda reads like you think because downtown doesn’t fulfil your needs you don’t see a point to it.
Who do you imagine is responsible for the state of downtown areas? Capitalism seems to be the culprit for decimating downtown areas.
