- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/45237868
“He’s doing a good job,” Trump saidabout the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that Netanyahu decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”
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The real not the onion is that half the country is still voting for this criminal scumbag grifter.
Far from it. Trump has never gotten the votes of more than 18% of the population.
258m adults in the US in 2020 about 255m in 2016
74 223 975 votes in 2020, 62 984 828 in 2016
That’s both more than 18% and there’s no reason to believe that all people under 18 would vote against Trump.
And that’s only based on the people that bothered voting, there’s supporters that didn’t vote that should get added to that as well.
Fun fact: the population consists of people younger than 18 as well. Half of everyone ≠ half of adults
there’s no reason to believe that all people under 18 would vote against Trump.
True, but there’s also no reason to believe that an overwhelming majority wouldn’t.
And that’s only based on the people that bothered voting
Way to victim blame the disenfranchised 🤦
How come the polls presented on TV show them neck to neck?
The person you’re replying to is pointing out the distinction between voters and actual population.
Because the media has a profit incentive to portray it as such. The closer it is, the more people watch their coverage and the more money they can charge advertisers.
Which is bad enough in itself, but them portraying it as close and the lies of fascists as valid arguments worthy of consideration MAKES it closer than it would otherwise be, in a classic case of the tail wagging the dog.
Bottom line is that, even with the sensationalist media helping them be more competitive, they would lose every major election in 40-45 states if not for massive voter suppression.
They do NOT have the support of half of the population, or even half of that. They’re viable in spite of 80% of the population not supporting them because the system is broken in their favor.
Utter bullshit. The polling companies are often separate from the media companies. Some are even academic institutions. And they are incentivised to be accurate. Imagine being the one polling organisation that can call elections!
What y’all are misunderstanding, however, is the difference between poll numbers and probability of winning. Harris definitely polls better but due to the electoral college the probability that she wins in lower than poll numbers suggests.
Utter bullshit
Thanks for the summation of your reply. Headlines are usually bolded and in bigger type than the body text, though…
The polling companies are often separate from the media companies. Some are even academic institutions
And there sre hundreds if not thousands from which to choose. The media choose the ones that best fit the narrative they’ve already written.
And they are incentivised to be accurate
Nope. They are incentivized to deliver the results that their customers want, regardless of accuracy.
Imagine being the one polling organisation that can call elections!
Even if doing so consistently was possible (which it isn’t), that wouldn’t be the most profitable thing to do. See above on incentive.
What y’all are misunderstanding, however, is the difference between poll numbers and probability of winning
Nope, I understand full well the difference between the popular vote, which is what’s polled, and the electoral vote which is a big part of the aforementioned system being broken in favor of the American Fascist Party AKA the GOP.
What a garbage response. “There is a profit motive, checkmate” is all you’ve said.
Just a reminder to those “Biden and Harris are participating in genocide, it’s not like Trump could be any worse” crowd.
It can always get worse.
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You guys need to fire your script writer
What the fuck conversation are YOU responding to? Cause it’s sure as hell not the one you posted in.
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The only thing they said is “Trump is worse than Biden.” You yourself agreed with that. So why are you demonising them for things they haven’t said?
Honestly, the fact you’re reacting so strongly to a post calling Trump worse than Biden by saying “liberals coming here to do their pissy whataboutism” makes you sound like a Trump supporter trying to take shots at the other side without even realising that Biden ISN’T EVEN RUNNING.
You’re totally right, nothing sounds more like support for “finish the job” trump than saying our president shouldn’t turn Palestinian children into skeletons
Ig that commenter wasn’t really doing whataboutism, the article wasn’t about people protesting the genocide, sorry to that person for any aggression. Fuck tons of liberals (at least the ones I’ve seen commenting on .world) have the idea that wanting Biden to stop sending weapons that are being used for war crimes means you want trump in office, I shouldn’t have assumed that of them
Free palestine. 🇵🇸
Also just unbelievably fucking tired of liberals strawmanning leftists like op. No, nobody thinks trump would be better for Palestinians besides people who don’t follow American politics and don’t vote. No, protesting the genocide in Gaza doesn’t make you a russian asset. Yes, I’m voting Harris. Seeing liberals project their lack of shits given about genocide onto leftists really pisses me off, especially with the classic liberal “holier than thou” smug superiority complex they almost always have
Free palestine. 🇵🇸
Once again, what the fuck conversation are you responding to? If you don’t disagree with what they said, that Trump is worse than Biden, why are you spending so much time arguing with them? Please note that they never said Biden was GOOD, just that Trump was WORSE.
nobody thinks trump would be better for Palestinians besides people who … don’t vote
So, aside from the people who think that, nobody thinks that? Helpful. Do you think they’re maybe not voting because they think Trump can’t be any worse?
Please fuck off with your strawmanning OP into a person saying things they definitely didn’t say. Fuck off with your false assertion that we criticise Trump because we love Biden. Fuck off with your “I’m not a russian spy” assertion when nobody ever called you one. Fuck off with your constant smug spamming of the Palestinian flag as if we aren’t on the same fucking side.
You’re not just preaching to the choir, you’re calling the choir blasphemers and heretics. If you’re going to respond to someone, please respond to what they said, and not what you think they could have said.
lol, what’s it like being insane? Seems fucking horrible.
You realize the song your name is a reference to is written by an anti-zionist right?
Free palestine. 🇵🇸
I’m definitely not for Israel either but your just lobbing bombs all over the place
What did they mean by this
