• hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    I feel like in a few years Valve is gonna have another go at Steamboxes, and both Sony and Microsoft are going to end up being caught off guard.

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      9 hours ago

      I’ve been saying for a while that Microsoft’s best bet from here is to turn the Xbox into a Windows box, update Windows to work decently on handhelds, and launch an Xbox portable. Kill the console/PC distinction and leave Sony flat-footed to compete with Nintendo.

      The only challenge to this approach is Valve beating them to it from the other direction.

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        MA is headed there. They are moving all of their office suite apps off x86 and into webview, which means they are platform agnostic.

        I see them taking another stab at pushing ARM windows again. Maybe the Xbox mobile will be their flagship.

        • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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          I see them taking another stab at pushing ARM windows again. Maybe the Xbox mobile will be their flagship.

          Maybe Steam will launch a phone in the near future?🤞

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      10 hours ago

      What’s stopping you from building your own Bazzite Box right now? (ChimeraOS is great too. ) Honestly, the things that make me most excited are

      1. the combined rumors of Valve developing for Arm and

      2. the Asahi Linux presentation from Alyssa Rosenzweig that shows you can run modern games from steam on Linux on arm mac NOW. https://rosenzweig.io/blog/aaa-gaming-on-m1.html

      Valve’s first party custom hardware is coming.

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    14 hours ago

    What a great closing quote:

    Who won? AMD

    AMD definitely won the console hardware race. The real arms race has always been to create an immersive experience and I don’t see that stopping any time soon.

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    The console war ended and Sony didn’t notice. They won, for whatever it’s worth. But developers haven’t targeted individual machines in a while.

    This was blatant early in the PS3 / 360 divide. The 360 acted like a generic Windows / DirectX machine, even moreso than the literal Pentium 3 PC they shipped prior. The PS3 was a novel and tremendously powerful unicorn that nobody bothered with. At least, not until Sony helped devs treat it like any other compiler target.

    Everything since then has been a blue AMD laptop versus a green AMD laptop. Nintendo dodged it for a bit, because Nintendo is a toy company that happens to be in the video game market, and their fixation on novelty avoids direct competition. But even they eventually tacked goofy controllers onto an Android tablet and printed money by being the only console you can play on a bus. All of the Switch games that aren’t theirs exist because it’s just another computer. Everything is… or it’s doomed.

    Microsoft’s weird moves with Xbox reflect this. They saw it coming. It’s arguably why they got into consoles, at all. They wanted to computerify that market so that they could push Windows on more people. That… kinda happened? But honestly it was coming even if they’d done nothing. RenderWare abstracted the graphics interface for Dreamcast, PS2, and PC, leading major engine-centric PC devs to release shooters on console, and allowing Rockstar to sell a zillion copies of assorted GTA games. The fight was already over, by the time EA ate RenderWare alive. Every publisher wanted to be on every platform to reach every customer.

    Qualitative differences became an obstacle to that goal, and slowly disappeared.

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      6 hours ago

      But even they eventually tacked goofy controllers onto an Android tablet and printed money by being the only console you can play on a bus.

      There was a bit of hope from Sony with the PSP and then the Vita, but they didn’t seem to push it to the logical next step, like Nintendo did. Which was foolish, like the Vita had the PSTV version, and it was a bonehead move not to follow through with the trajectory they were already on.

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    15 hours ago

    Yes, but if they don’t participate in this arms race then it will be too easy to emulate their hardware and it will be their own fault when people pirate their games. This is what I’ve gathered from reading opinions on Nintendo hardware here on Lemmy.

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      9 hours ago

      The other console makers put their games on PC already. That you can pirate Nintendo games on PC and run them better than if you bought them legitimately is further evidence that the console exclusive model doesn’t make sense anymore.

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          Nor I them. If they want to curb piracy, they can offer a better product than you’d get if you stole it. At this point, that means making their games available on PC. Likewise, when their back catalog is only legally available to rent and not purchase, I don’t know how they expect anything other than piracy to result from that.

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            40 minutes ago

            This is a great example of entitlement to other people’s work. Do you know those evil companies that you crave entertainment from also employ people who create this entertainment? You show complete and utter disrespect to the work that those people do.

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              It’s interesting that you assume I pirate Switch games just because I can see why people pirate. I probably booted up Yuzu at some point to just see it running, but I only actually played Switch games on an actual Switch. My preferred method of playing Switch games these days is to not play them at all.

              The ROMs I’ve got for their old platforms are games I’ve mostly bought before, and the rest are those that can’t be purchased digitally at all. I just organize them and play them my way, which is better than Nintendo has ever made them available. If they have people they need to pay, then maybe they ought to sell me those old ROMs rather than sue the people who make them available.

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            If you have trouble extracting the meaning from this I’ll help you out.

            Many people around here hate big corpos which is very good.

            Many people around here pirate stuff. This is not great since people have to be paid for their work. There are many mitigating circumstances, like if you can’t afford it, for example. In those cases it’s quite healthy since people get exposed to culture and from pure business standpoint might still mean some sales in the future.

            Many people around here are critical of business decisions from big corporations. They’re obviously free to do that. At the same times, as long as those companies are not monopolies / oligopolies or doing anything illegal, they should be allowed to carry on.

            Many people around here expect companies to just roll over and give them stuff. And that’s just being a spoiled brat.

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              I’ve not seen many pirates say that they expect companies to roll over and give them stuff. The biggest push for piracy I’ve seen is because companies refuse to sell their products. It’s all licenses to use which can be revoked at any time. Many people aren’t interested in licenses and since there is no legal way to actually purchase most games or movies, that just leaves pirating.

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      9 hours ago

      What nintendo needs to do is release games on pc. I would not pirate their games if i could buy them.

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        10 hours ago

        People have been saying “Nintendo should release their games for Platform That I Like” for decades. Pretty sure they’re content with doing what they’re been doing.

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          You’re not wrong, but we’ve seen time and time again that piracy decreases with improved access. Look at what Spotify and netflix did to curb piracy.

          This might be a broader conversation, but i see traditional consoles dying off soon. Look at xbox and playstations entrance into the pc market via online streaming.

          I dont doubt theyre content suing the pants off creators showing emulation of games that havent been for sale for decades, but they are undoubtably anti-consumer at this point.

          I see no point in shelling out a couple hundred bucks for a switch with a quarter of the computing power of my steamdeck, much less my pc.