It’s always easy to spot the difference between cars that are used for heavy duty and those that are used to make someone feel all rugged and heavy duty while farting in their specially crafted office chair because regular chairs make back all hurty hurty.
Hey, if I see a pickup that looks like it’s doing work (some grime, work equipment, etc.) then more power to the owner. If it looks like it just got the third layer of wax done, maybe not so much.
I drive pickup because I’m a farmer. The comment here about pickups being terrible terrible at most jobs obviously comes from someone who doesn’t use one for work. Are they really suggesting I buy three different vehicles and the environmental costs associated with producing them? I don’t even like traveling for fun. My pickup is a 99, so it’s not even that tall compared to what they sell now. I can do all my deliveries, pickups, and even took the back seat(4 door) out for more cargo space.
That being said, modern pickups have gotten too bulky without any gains 8n function. A dream build for me would be an 80s era square body with a modified Tesla rear end.
If we really want to start comparing, SUVs don’t offer any more function over a classic station wagon. Build one of those with modern crumple zones, materials, and make it an EV and you have the perfect around town errant vehicle.
I drive pickup because I’m a farmer. The comment here about pickups being terrible terrible at most jobs obviously comes from someone who doesn’t use one for work.
But they are terrible at most jobs. Your job just happens to be one of the few exceptions.
And even that might be debatable, I don’t see most farmers here use those things, they drive a tractor for the heavy shit and a small car for most othet things. But that might be a regional difference, I’m not a farmer myself.
Either way, those huge pickups have no business in a parking garage.
Small farm. Pickups are good for quickly hauling tools, fertilizer, seed, etc… to fields. Huge, thousand acre fields might use tractor trailers with flatbed or liquid holding tanks. We have a box truck for big deliveries, but a pickup will be good for small deliveries. More fuel efficient and easier in irregular parking lots then a box truck. I’ve also made a grease pumping setup on skids that I use to pick up wvo. That can go in most pickups.
When I have to drive though gridlock in NYC, what I see are yuppies in SUVs that wont make eye contact while they sit their asses in the middle of the intersection. I’m surprised those even fit in parking garages. They should really put a height limit on privately owned vehicles in cities.
But are we arguing van vs truck now? Seems like such a slight difference. I do wish I had a van instead of a truck sometimes but when I get yard or mulch dumped into my truck bed, I’m glad I don’t.
The comment here about pickups being terrible terrible at most jobs obviously comes from someone who doesn’t use one for work.
It probably comes from someone who doesn’t use one at all. If you actually use it for work, this comment is not about you. The top 3 selling vehicles in the US are massive pickup trucks, and have been for decades.
There are simply not that many farmers. They’re being used to commute back and forth to the office because they’re comfortable and they “like riding high above everyone else”.
Is that static grouping all pickup sales to all car sales or just the leading pickup model to the leading car model?
Because there aren’t as many models of pickups out there as there are cars. One manufacture can have half a dozen models that are all about the same, but with different badges them, but a truck platform will only have the pickup and maybe an suv.
That last line is precisely why I drive an older wagon. All the carry shit of an SUV and then some, plus I can camp in the back, better mpg, I can reach the engine bay without a step stool, and I can avoid running over children. Mine even has AWD, so what would I ever want an SUV for. I hate SUVs. I had a newer SUV as a rental after a recent accident, and I hated that thing! I felt so unsafe in it. Sure, I would survive most any impact I was prone to, but I care about the safety of those around me as well. I was terrified I’d hit a pedestrian. I was so happy to get back in a car sized car.
I totally agree. I have a friend who works with forresty and managing a very large area. She has one 8f those big range rowers and it gets absolutely beaten and used heavily every day driving through the terrain while hawking chain saws, tools and gear.
Tho I still find the size to be somewhat comically and unnessearyly large and inelegant.
For domestic use it’s even more stupid
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It’s always easy to spot the difference between cars that are used for heavy duty and those that are used to make someone feel all rugged and heavy duty while farting in their specially crafted office chair because regular chairs make back all hurty hurty.
Hey, if I see a pickup that looks like it’s doing work (some grime, work equipment, etc.) then more power to the owner. If it looks like it just got the third layer of wax done, maybe not so much.
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I drive pickup because I’m a farmer. The comment here about pickups being terrible terrible at most jobs obviously comes from someone who doesn’t use one for work. Are they really suggesting I buy three different vehicles and the environmental costs associated with producing them? I don’t even like traveling for fun. My pickup is a 99, so it’s not even that tall compared to what they sell now. I can do all my deliveries, pickups, and even took the back seat(4 door) out for more cargo space.
That being said, modern pickups have gotten too bulky without any gains 8n function. A dream build for me would be an 80s era square body with a modified Tesla rear end.
If we really want to start comparing, SUVs don’t offer any more function over a classic station wagon. Build one of those with modern crumple zones, materials, and make it an EV and you have the perfect around town errant vehicle.
That puts you in the like 1% minority of pick-up owners
But they are terrible at most jobs. Your job just happens to be one of the few exceptions.
And even that might be debatable, I don’t see most farmers here use those things, they drive a tractor for the heavy shit and a small car for most othet things. But that might be a regional difference, I’m not a farmer myself.
Either way, those huge pickups have no business in a parking garage.
Small farm. Pickups are good for quickly hauling tools, fertilizer, seed, etc… to fields. Huge, thousand acre fields might use tractor trailers with flatbed or liquid holding tanks. We have a box truck for big deliveries, but a pickup will be good for small deliveries. More fuel efficient and easier in irregular parking lots then a box truck. I’ve also made a grease pumping setup on skids that I use to pick up wvo. That can go in most pickups.
When I have to drive though gridlock in NYC, what I see are yuppies in SUVs that wont make eye contact while they sit their asses in the middle of the intersection. I’m surprised those even fit in parking garages. They should really put a height limit on privately owned vehicles in cities.
Tractor + small van seems to work fine for all farmers in Europe.
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Farming and construction are the only fields that need a truck. Everything else can be done better with a van, yeah.
But are we arguing van vs truck now? Seems like such a slight difference. I do wish I had a van instead of a truck sometimes but when I get yard or mulch dumped into my truck bed, I’m glad I don’t.
It probably comes from someone who doesn’t use one at all. If you actually use it for work, this comment is not about you. The top 3 selling vehicles in the US are massive pickup trucks, and have been for decades.
There are simply not that many farmers. They’re being used to commute back and forth to the office because they’re comfortable and they “like riding high above everyone else”.
Is that static grouping all pickup sales to all car sales or just the leading pickup model to the leading car model?
Because there aren’t as many models of pickups out there as there are cars. One manufacture can have half a dozen models that are all about the same, but with different badges them, but a truck platform will only have the pickup and maybe an suv.
No, read it again. “Top selling vehicle”. That includes cars and SUVs and everything else.
That last line is precisely why I drive an older wagon. All the carry shit of an SUV and then some, plus I can camp in the back, better mpg, I can reach the engine bay without a step stool, and I can avoid running over children. Mine even has AWD, so what would I ever want an SUV for. I hate SUVs. I had a newer SUV as a rental after a recent accident, and I hated that thing! I felt so unsafe in it. Sure, I would survive most any impact I was prone to, but I care about the safety of those around me as well. I was terrified I’d hit a pedestrian. I was so happy to get back in a car sized car.
I totally agree. I have a friend who works with forresty and managing a very large area. She has one 8f those big range rowers and it gets absolutely beaten and used heavily every day driving through the terrain while hawking chain saws, tools and gear. Tho I still find the size to be somewhat comically and unnessearyly large and inelegant. For domestic use it’s even more stupid
I’ve done heavier towing in a van than that Ford can legally come close to. A digger in the back with 3.5 tons of equipment on a dual axel trailer.
No one needs these pointless wastes if space. They’re a fashion statement not a working vehicle.
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Just ignoring trailers which is the whole claimed purpose of those ridiculous yank tanks.
Oh and the hydraulic crane on my trailer had no issues getting stuff inside my van.
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I too need a 300 ton crane for 500 pound objects.
Right tool for the right job.
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