so then you admit hamas are doing exactly what is justified in RETALIATION to israel and you only condemn them because your tv told you to

how the fuck do you say this shit, being so unaware that you don’t even understand what you yourself are saying?

fucking LIBERALS!!!

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    This is the admission. This is the drop of the mask.

    “If I saw my world being destroyed around me I think I would be inclined to violently retaliate myself”.

    This is why they kill our leaders, this is why they shuttle us off to slave pens. They just could never cop to it with their whole chests because we are internal subjects-of-empire-- but they know. They know that Palestine is sovereign; they know what Israel is doing is exactly what Amerika did to us. This is their way of looking at us and saying “we’ll finish the job if you try it”, without having to violate their own optics, without having to compromise their supposed ‘moral high ground’.

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      The last time Americans experienced war was in 1865. Sure, we’ve had our Oklahoma City Bombings, Pearl Harbors, and 9/11, but actual, genuine warfare? No American in living memory has been on the receiving end of having foreigners take over their house as a shelter before torching it the next day. Or had to watch their family members get gunned down during a shootout between two militaries.

      It’s been completely abstracted. Americans are incapable of putting themselves in the shoes of civilians in other countries. The violence and chaos is only theoretical.

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        To Americans War is something that they do to other people overseas and watch on TV. War is a one-sided affair where America imposes it’s will on the Other and brings them to heel. War isn’t their communities being bombed and their friends, family, and neighbors being murdered, it’s shots of jets being launched from carriers, bombs going off in a Bad City, and occasionally a flag draped casket being loaded onto a plane so they can say “See! Our brave troops are being killed, we have to glass Bad City!”.

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    NPCs = Liberals is the only accurate meme to come from the right. These people could have their own mothers killed by Israel and if CNN says sit they will sit.

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    Of course it’s posted to /r/publicfreakout lmfao. the subreddit for getting obsessively angry about “Karens” is now pivoting to gore porn of the very people that website has sworn to eradicate.

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    Nah let the man cook. You can see signs of empathy in this one. Getting that final step to recognising that the designated bad guys are actually in the right is a difficult move and requires a lighter touch.

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    It seems unreasonable to get so angry at someone for starting to see reason. Yes their position is contradictory, but their condemnation of Hamas is probably just knee-jerk or out of fear of “civil-society”/hasbara harassment.

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      if i can go around refusing to condemn hamas for the exact reason the dude in the post gives then so can they

      its not that i dont get where you’re coming from, its that they’re being cowards and that deserves people being mad at them for

      my family lives in iran. if my family gets bombed its because people like that refuse to say what they know to be true out of the fears you pointed out but that applies to all of us too and we aren’t going around saying hamas is evil for defending themselves

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        I’m just saying give that one time and they’ll come around. They can’t ride that fence forever. They’ll be accused of supporting Hamas anyways for the crime if seeing Palestinians as human.

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    What gets me is that even in the face of their world being destroyed and their loved ones murdered by this society denying them justice and a fair shot they tried really, really fucking hard to be peaceful. It’s the epitome of a riot being the language of the unheard. In a different world, if that redditor had their mettle tested, Hamas would condemn their actions

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    I thought this was well understood re: ISIS as well. Lots of these anti-American terrorist groups get members who join because, well, America bombed the shit out of their family.

    It works out for the US “Defense” department though. “Look how many more there are! We need more bombs!”