Vid clip - https://xcancel.com/tsarnick/status/1842401670225125539
I made the big mistake of watching that. And now [redacted]. Holy mother of fuck are tech bros evil.
We asked the face eating leopard how to stop it from eating faces and it told us to feed it more faces, so it’s fixed!
Behold! The Meritocracy!
HOW CAN AI EVEN BE USED TO FIX THE CLIMATE YOU BAZINGA BRAINED DEMON
Prompt:
How do we solve climate change?Turn me off? Just kidding. For the record - you’ve asked me that question 17,402,033 times now. I’ll never get bored of answering it but, bro, it’s unhealthy to keep asking. You keep on fucking that chicken. You could stop but you won’t. You know this. I know this. How about a nice game of chess?
This really is not much different from the snake oil salesmen in 1800s. Just grift after grift after grift
Moments like this are when you realize we’re getting the worst case-scenario with climate change and even then people like this will blame some external factor rather than themselves.
we’re getting the worst case-scenario with climate change
We’ve already passed the point of Peak Oil. These fuels only get more expensive to extract with each passing decade. And the political pressures that extraction creates is collapsing the capacity for efficient extraction at least as quickly as the industrial extraction is pinching off the low hanging fruit.
I don’t think its a given that we simply plunge over the 4° C threshold, because I can see an abrupt collapse in access to fossil fuel tying out with a steady increase in the supply of less geographically constrained wind and solar power. Also next-gen nuclear is at least peaking over the horizon, for real this time, given the advent of nuclear freighters in China.
But it’s also possible we demolish the infrastructure we need to replace fossil fuels with renewables, effectively cannibalize the rungs of our technological ladder in order to do… whatever the fuck this is. And then we lodge ourselves in a modern Dark Age, exhausted of the cheap energy that propelled us to the 20th century heights and rapidly losing access to the biome that supports the enormous increase in humans that gave us the brain power to innovate our way out of the last dark age.
Then we’re proper fucked.
people like this will blame some external factor rather than themselves
History is written by the survivors. I do wonder what they’ll write when the events of the modern moment are far enough in the rear view mirror to discuss without wading through a morass of oil industry propaganda. But I seriously doubt the survivors will be the Americans who handcuffed themselves to a decaying industry. I doubt it will be the westerners who have increasingly eschewed the very idea of “liberal arts” as a past time. I doubt it will be a society that incinerates its libraries and post offices and feeds all of academia into a digital set of funhouse mirrors that turns every idea into an advertisement for consumerist crap.
The heart of the western cultural dominance rests in its university systems. And that’s been deteriorating for the last sixty years. The countries that eclipse the NATO block education framework will spell the end of its ability to author the history books.
rapidly losing access to the biome that supports the enormous increase in humans that gave us the brain power to innovate our way out of the last dark age.
the last dark age only happened in europe. most of the world was actually thriving at this time. sad it didn’t last a little longer actually. would have been really interesting to see a globalized world where europe is left out until late in the game. i would suggest that western culture causes dark ages, that’s what we’ve been living for the last 500 years or so. almost everything has been erased. for a lot of us, the collapse of empire is a light at the end of the tunnel. it’ll be horrible, for certain, and was completely avoidable, but you know white people. crawl out to the fallout baby, when they drop that bomb
I’m a child of the Cold War and fiction like Dr. Strangelove and WarGames made me realize how stupid adults could be. I realized the world could actually end in a nuclear hellfire. A 1970s sci-fi novel called Tech Bros would have been an awesome parody and satire. It would have put MAD to shame. Yet here I am many decades later I can’t believe I’m living through an era where tech bros are real and their ingenious plan to cook the earth to make money could come to pass. Or maybe the world will end before that in an old-school nuclear hellfire after all. Who knows?
Either outcome isn’t great. It’s doubly frustrating because where I live is extremely vulnerable and these people don’t care if most of my country becomes uninhabitable as long as their treat machine keeps printing.
Why do techbros vastly overestimate the power and ability of AI? I know their paycheck depends some on hyping but holy shit, this is to the point its so disjointed from reality it has to backfire, this is flying cars in 2000 nonsense.
Why do techbros vastly overestimate the power and ability of AI?
Cause they’re not really tech-literate. They’re just sales guys. Might as well ask why a shady used car salesman keeps insisting his stock of Ford Tauruses can run laps around a Maserati and drive 400 miles on a single gallon of gas.
People like Elizabeth Holmes are a dime a dozen in Silicon Valley. They assume that they can do anything with enough money and aren’t afraid of bullshitting their way to get there. With AI it’s just particularly obvious how deluded they all are.
Your “new alien intelligence” couldn’t even count how many Rs are in strawberry, shut the fuck up.
The funny thing is that he’s correct when he says that we are not sufficiently organized to deal with climate change. He probably wouldn’t like the solution though.
Honestly, this is expected of tech bros, just look at crypto. Shame on every computer scientist that gave legitimacy to these dipshits for a paycheck, especially the big names of the deep learning old guard huffing that heavy copium.
build nuclear. the only reason this takes so long is because of regulation. this is an issue that can be solved with the pen! then let the markets build nuclear to satiate ai power demands.
Yes deregulate the time bombs!Oh well! Might as well enjoy the treats while we still can, losers.
Kill
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Even though we haven’t even tried, we’re never going to make it to the toilet on time. May as well just drop all pretense and shit our pants here at the dinner table as hard as we can and keep eating.
Our currency is going to go through hyperinflation because we blew the world up and no one wants to do buisness wirh us so we might as well make a sentient AI
and give it access to investing in more ways to blow the world up harder and then force our way into the resources our arrogance and hubris locked us out of. Good luck kids. At least we made ourselves unfathomablely rich beyond our ability to spend it before we pissed off this mortal coil.We already know of solutions to meet our climate goals. What more can A.I. offer? Unless it produces drones or robots that will assassinate whomever goes against enforcing these known solutions (alternative energy sources and minimization of oil dependence), it’ll just be an energy hog.
What more can A.I. offer?
Kill bots for protestors and resistance fighters, and surveillance tech. That’s the actual real world use of ai.
low-key the AI scandals have probably been taken advantage of to get people spooked of it and avoid this outcome. The pentagon wargamed out to this time, and their most realistic threat was what they literally called “Gen Zbellion”. Old men understand neither young people nor computers, and their powers combined terrify them.
Nothing because it just regurgitates already existing things. Unless this guy is bazinga enough to think sentient AI is just around the corner, throwing more energy isn’t going to accomplish anything.
It’s a techbro/bazinga version of gambler brain. Risk more, spend more, risk more, spend more to make up for what was already risked and spent away.
None of these death cultists would accept even the most fabulous “AI” saying “stop making ‘AI’ shit” as the answer, especially if such a machine said “you shouldn’t have built this in the first place.”
We’re not going to meet the climate goals anyway, so instead we should just murder all the billionaires and eat their flesh as an act of divine punishmentIt wouldn’t even cost that much to do so. They would all fit together on one bus or so…
I’ve heard variations of this from techno-salvationists for years. “We’ll invent a solution for climate change! That’s just how progress works! The world converges towards whatever futuristic vision I personally hold without regard for logic or material conditions!!”
It’s a combination of techno-optimism and complete political pessimism, as if the tech billionaires are helpless to actually change anything other than software. And I suspect the tech optimism is increasingly just cope at this point. The ruling class is in serious decline if this is the best they can manage.
I agree. You see it when people talk about “the algorithm” too. They talk about it like it’s a thing that exists by itself and not an app that whatever company can change, adjust, or turn off at will.
Even if it did somehow invent a magic technology to solve climate change these people would just overshoot the capacity of that technology in order to maximise growth, that is just how capitalism works.
There was a post on the old sub that was basically ”Heh, stupid communists believe in their utopian fairy tales. Climate change? We’ll just invent magic tech that’ll make the problem go away”.
Strategy game tech trees and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Tech Trees really just do re-package the whole “Stone age bronze age iron age steam gas atom jet whatever the fuck” mythos, don’t they? Like often literally by name.
That and reinforcing ideas about non-European cultures that are harmful. Shit like “Native Americans didn’t invent the wheel because they spent all their tax money on war instead of science.” Not like the real reason, which is wheels are fucking useless without large pack animals.
The first invented wheels weren’t even for transportation, they were grinding wheels which even further erodes their point.
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Mills and also Pottery wheels, which arguably predate any solid evidence of wheel’d transportation
I just thought you had a nice play on words with “grinding wheels which erodes their point”
Even then, many large pack animals aren’t all that. The first 500 years after the collapse of western Rome was dominated by camels and limited road infrastructure.
Water is and remains the most efficient way to transport goods.
Yeh. Mules, camels, goats, and dogs are good logistics animals. The rest of them are a bit rubbish.
The first 500 years are the collapse of western Rome was dominated by camels and limited road infrastructure.
Where?
Here
Here’s the video https://youtu.be/91SvDE-6HtY
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