CNN has reported that Israel’s Mossad headquarters are located in a “densely populated area” in Tel Aviv, posing risks to civilians during Iran’s attack.

“The concern is if your firing, even though Iran might consider that a military target, it is in a densely populated city with civilians around it," CNN reported.

The remarks raised questions on social media on why West did not accuse the intelligence agency of using Israeli civilians as “human shields”, as they claim Hamas and Hezbollah do.

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    I mean this itself isn’t a problem, because who the fuck builds their headquarters in the middle of nowhere? But it’s ironic given they keep crying about Hamas headquarters being in residential areas (again, who builds their headquarters in the middle of nowhere).

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    If you ask Israel, they have no problems with bombing many civilians to get a target.

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    So by Israel’s own standard of discourse, they’re “using human shields” and hence any amount of killing of Israeli civilians is perfectly justified not matter how great the disproportion of civilians to non-civilians killed, their age or gender.

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    The remarks raised questions on social media on why West did not accuse the intelligence agency of using Israeli civilians as “human shields”, as they claim Hamas and Hezbollah do.

    Because that would be devastating to their case.

    The US supports Israel for reasons unrelated to them being truthful or good actors (possibly just mysticism). They try not to openly say that.

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      I mean it’s more because the pentagon, cia, NSA, and most of our secure weapons design facilities are based well within cities because employees in places like area 51 (groom lake) are fairly easy to track given the relatively remote location.

      We do it, they do it, everyone does it both out of immorality and necessity often at the same time.

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        It’s not even just security. People live in cities, so things tend to be built near cities.

        The argument Hamas being anywhere in Gaza counts as using human shields was fully bullshit. In their case, they operate(d) mostly as guerillas, so they didn’t have conventional military bases to build in any place in particular, anyway.

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    Like blowing up a daycare because someone you tortured said Hamas was there? At least the Mossad is actually in the building.

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    Duh, they’ve been doing this since at least 1913 (operation manta ray iirc if you look up 1946 king George bombing, you’ll find it). It’s why everyone in the region uses civilians as shields.

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    Because they never thought people would attack it. When it was built, attacks were bombs on busses, not hypersonic missles shot from Iran.

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        Totally unheard of! Bombing cities?! Don’t they know innocent people live there? Like putting “strategic targets” in densely population centers? It’s like Isreal is using its people as human shields. Israeli people should leave those areas if they don’t want to be caught up in the fighting.

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          Most certainly. I mean why can’t Israel just put all their military assets in one very clearly cordoned off area in the desert with a big neon sign that says ‘all our tanks, artillery, airplanes, small arms, and ammunition for everything is right here’ and make abso-fucking-lutely sure that no civilian is within 10KM of the area and anyone working there is 100% military and also armed.

          Oh and they can’t live on-base. Because that is still using them for human shields, too. Oh and nothing ‘civilian’ to transport them either. Regular cars and buses? Nope. Only armored vehicles. Anything else would be perfidity!

          I mean if they have a single area that is put in secret it is like them being worse than Hamas. Actually it means they ARE Hamas all along! Bomb them! Bomb them to the stone age!

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      That can’t be it. Of course the foreign intelligence headquarters were built with all sorts of security in mind.

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    Removed by mod

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      the countless palestinians who live besides the Mossad in Tel Aviv

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        Don’t you hear? It’s a popular Palestinian pastime (alliterations anyone?) to pass by the Mossad on your way to work and cry over the atrocities committed against your people.

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        Those children weren’t civilians, they were potential combatants. Whose to say they wouldn’t have grown up to become militants?

        Also observing that Israel murders children is anti-semitic. Haven’t you ever heard of the black legend?

        EDIT: Those children were probably anti-semites who died on purpose so the IDF could be accused of being baby killers.

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          Also observing that Israel murders children is anti-semitic. Haven’t you ever heard of the black legend?

          It is also illegal in Germany. We love free speech.

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          There are certainly criticisms to be made of it, but characterizing them as “the bad guys” in a conflict with Israel because they do [thing Israel has been known for for decades] is either sarcasm or rank stupidity

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          Iran is not a good state, they are a fascist theocracy. Israel’s “achievement” is being even worse than that: a warmongering, genocidal apartheid state.

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            Israel’s “achievement” is being even worse than that: a warmongering, genocidal apartheid state.

            and also

            a fascist theocracy