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minus-squaredavidagain@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·3 months ago Do you think the Dems analyze the percentage of votes based on the beliefs of their voters? No, I think they see the republicans win with right wing policies, sigh and say “I guess we’ve gotta do some of that shit to get elected.”
minus-squareCowbee [he/they]linkfedilinkarrow-up2·3 months agoDo you think the Dems try to serve their voters, or their donors?
minus-squaredavidagain@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·3 months agoThey try to gain power, and they follow the votes that count towards the result. They ignore the votes that ignore the contest. You seem to think they pay attention to the non voters’ views more than the voters views, which is irrational.
minus-squareCowbee [he/they]linkfedilinkarrow-up2·3 months agoYou keep pretending third party voters are non-voters, which is definitionally false. The Dems follow the money, which comes from their donors. This drives policy. For electoralism, they gesture to their voterbase, but this doesn’t impact their real policy.
minus-squaredavidagain@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·3 months ago You keep pretending third party voters are non-voters, which is definitionally false. You keep pretending that choosing to not affect the outcome affects the outcome.
minus-squareCowbee [he/they]linkfedilinkarrow-up2·3 months agoIt certainly affects the outcome, it signals support for ending genocide and delegitimizes the system.
minus-squaredavidagain@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·3 months agoNo, it makes no difference at all. Trump will win or Harris will win. If Trump wins, the democrats will move right to try to win again.
minus-squareCowbee [he/they]linkfedilinkarrow-up2·3 months agoAnd you’ll keep goose stepping with them rather than hop off and join the Leftists in saving the world.
minus-squaredavidagain@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·3 months agoYou’re not saving anybody letting the fascists take over the government of the largest military.
No, I think they see the republicans win with right wing policies, sigh and say “I guess we’ve gotta do some of that shit to get elected.”
Do you think the Dems try to serve their voters, or their donors?
They try to gain power, and they follow the votes that count towards the result. They ignore the votes that ignore the contest. You seem to think they pay attention to the non voters’ views more than the voters views, which is irrational.
You keep pretending third party voters are non-voters, which is definitionally false.
The Dems follow the money, which comes from their donors. This drives policy.
For electoralism, they gesture to their voterbase, but this doesn’t impact their real policy.
You keep pretending that choosing to not affect the outcome affects the outcome.
It certainly affects the outcome, it signals support for ending genocide and delegitimizes the system.
No, it makes no difference at all. Trump will win or Harris will win. If Trump wins, the democrats will move right to try to win again.
And you’ll keep goose stepping with them rather than hop off and join the Leftists in saving the world.
You’re not saving anybody letting the fascists take over the government of the largest military.