• Angel [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    63·
    3 months ago

    Imagine a person saying something like, “I don’t know if slavery should’ve ended in the US because those slaves likely had some misogynistic or homophobic beliefs.”

    I wouldn’t put it past some white queers, honestly.

    • Smeagolicious [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      38·
      3 months ago

      They already handwring about the Haitian revolution, John Brown, Nat Turner & other slave revolts, they just know they probably couldn’t get away with saying it for US slavery as a whole. It’ll probably enter the discourse sooner than later

    • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]@hexbear.netEnglish
      35·
      3 months ago

      You don’t have to imagine, there were white advocates for women’s rights in the time when it was considerably more acceptable to say “I don’t know if slavery should’ve ended” in public

    • -6-6-6-@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      28·
      3 months ago

      Fuck man, that shit is too real. I literally posted something like that not that long ago on my own social and I had four people message me saying that SAME EXACT SHIT.

  • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    40·
    3 months ago

    Most of these people would never support LGBTQ rights themselves. We queers know better than these losers who our actual enemies are. It’s the Imperial government which presses its boot on our necks, and not the guys fighting the Empire thousands of miles away from where they would have any chance of hurting us.

    I honestly hate how basic tactical and strategic thinking completely does not exist within the liberal mind. They love basing their entire worldview on insane scenarios they cooked up in their heads.

    It’s like watching toddlers play with action figures. “Hurr hurr, the fat blue haired feeeemale got thrown off a roof by the dirty savages” unzips pants and jerks it to interracial porn.

  • merthyr1831English
    35·
    3 months ago

    Palestinians being thrown off buildings

    BUT WHAT IF THE PALESTINIAN WAS AN SJW LIBERAL BLUE HAIR TRANS WOMAN AND THE IDF SOLDIER WAS A PALESTINIAN???

    • -6-6-6-@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      12·
      3 months ago

      The classism has been on the double with the Copmala-mandering on Stormfront.

      “Only dumb, poor uneducated high-school graduate savages living in the boonies would vote for trump! SC got what it deserved!”

    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      9·
      3 months ago

      every time a trans person commits a crime (in libs eyes and otherwise) suddenly misgendering is a-ok… among other things. God help you if you arent white trans at that point or its going to be even worse

  • barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    26·
    3 months ago

    “The genociders are currently mass-killing so many people that statistically they are also killing far more LGBT people than the resistance would.”

    Actually, has anyone seen a liberal respond to this argument (or a similar one)? I’d be curious to see what species of brainworms show up.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    23·
    3 months ago

    dude

    Pretty much nothing good is likely to come after this is said as a sentence opener. Fucking South Park brain is itself Drej Tank material.

    It’s abrasive from the start because it has presumptions about who is being spoken to. Imagine calling these three “dudes” and what’d happen next.

  • vegeta1 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    19·
    3 months ago

    I wonder if they would keep the same energy if someone said the same about lgbt marriage being illegal in Ukraine. Guess all the empathy for that cause should go out the window then huh? Or maybe engaging in strawman isn’t the move orly

      • LaughingLion [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        12·
        3 months ago

        they don’t:

        “Idk how long I will live so I just want this to be my memory here before I die. I am not going to leave my home, come what may. My biggest regret is not kissing this one guy. He died two days back. We had told how much we like each other and I was too shy to kiss last time. He died in the bombing. I think a big part of me died too. And soon I will be dead. To younus, i will kiss you in heaven.”

        and

        “I’ve always imagined you and me sitting out in the sun, hand and hand, free at last. We spoke of all the places we would go if we could. Yet you are gone now. If I had known that bombs raining down on us would take you from me, I would have gladly told the world how I adored you more than anything. I’m sorry I was a coward.”

        and

        “The place where you died, even though we were only penpals, I love you to my core, 5 years of the best friendship. Ahmad died of the airstrike, you died of heartbreak. Khalid, I love you, I loved the way you came out to me, how I came out to you, how you introduced Ahmad as your boyfriend, I wanted to share your hurts with me, but we’re seas apart, I’ll free Palestine just for your eyes. I hope you rest well in heaven, kiss Ahmad all you want, and be very happy, in this life or another I’ll follow you, and we can unite, I love you to Icarus and beyond”

        its late and im crying before bed

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    16·
    3 months ago

    It’s sad how well this actually works on some people. So many of my liberal friends have adopted a blind “both sides bad” because of stuff like this. I don’t know why they struggle with the concept of critical support, but I haven’t been able to teach them successfully. Every time I think they get it, they roll back to a black and white “I just want to grill” view of things.

    • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      12·
      3 months ago

      They don’t struggle with critical support. Lesser evilism and voting for the Democrats literally is their version of critical support. What they struggle with is contexualising events into a coherent world history.

      They can kind of do it for American politics, but unless they have been following world politics deeply (and looked at independent sources), their framework will be the one given to them by the imperialists, which is deliberately unscientific so as to breed nihilism.

      • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        7·
        3 months ago

        I guess that is the core of the problem really. My liberal friends are not at all scientifically minded, so I might need to teach them the most basic forms of scientific thinking first.