• 1984@lemmy.today
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      2 months ago

      Israel could have taken out entire hospital staffs with this “technique”. Hope they remain human and don’t.

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        They (Israeli government) have murdered thousands of innocent men, women and children already without any remorse. Destroyed the entirety of Gaza.

        What makes you think the Israeli government has any heart, sympathy or feelings at all?

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        Those devices were bought by Hesbollah, for their soldiers to use, and were connected to a network they operate.

        From what I understand about the attack, even if one of these devices made it’s way into the hands of a doctor, it would have to be connected to the Hesbollah network to detonate.

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          Multiple electronics stores caught on fire. I doubt Mossad found a specific box that said “To: terrorists” on it and only rigged those pagers. They just don’t care about killing civilians.

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            My understanding of this is those pagers and the network they were connected to were only for use by Hesbollah.

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          2 months ago

          Not just their soldiers, civilian members of the organisation were also using them.

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            Bold of you to call them soldiers. For the Israel state or, I hope, government, they are all active/inactive terrorists. Yeah, 10 year olds, too.

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              I called them soldiers because that is the terminology the person I was replying to used.

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                Don’t worry, that wasn’t the point. I hope you didn’t feel instigated by my comment. It wasn’t my intention.

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        2 months ago

        A lot of the pager victims were civilian, and calling zionists “human” when a decades-long war has long since surpassed the genocide threshold is insulting.

        Not defending arab extremists either in case your us/them mentality couldn’t tell and no, not all Palestinians are terrorists.

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    People that work on-call do this, especially in tech or security.

    I’m considering making the switch because my paging calls are from a random set of phone numbers, so I cannot attach a specific ringtone to them. After a few horrible pages, you start to associate your phone going off as a world-ending experience, when it’s just your wife calling to ask if you want her to pick something up for you from the shop. A separate device that disassociates my phone from pain would be nice.

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      2 months ago

      He was probably meeting with someone who had one, being an ambassador and all.

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    People that work in classified environments. You can’t have smart devices (phones, watches, anything that communicates with the outside) while in these controlled spaces. pagers are acceptable because they’re 1 way communication, so there’s no risk of data leaks from the classified space

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      Pagers are not guaranteed to be 1 way comms and bringing them into secure locations is a security violation. Additionally, depending on the classification, no unauthorized and undisclosed devices of any kind would be permitted, including any electronics or electronic media such as tapes, CDs, discs, etc. Even when I was issued a verified 1-way pager, I was specifically briefed I was not permitted to bring it into a classified location. Most of the highly classified SCIFS are shielded anyways, you can’t use it inside so it’s safer to leave it out, along with all other devices.

      If your organization allows it, then (if federal) they are breaking the law and should be reported/up-channeled. If it’s corpo, you should bring up additional concerns with your security team.

      Edit: Also, it goes without saying, current events are probably a good reason why pagers (and other devices) aren’t allowed in classified areas. While most focus on disclosure (getting out), we must not forget the risk of data/operations getting destroyed.

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        Idk man, I have a federally compliant 1 way pager. So it’s not illegal. We score the highest marks on our DoD security audits every year. Theyre distrubuted from the security office, so I’m sure they do some sort of vetting on each individual one.

        We’re a govt contractor, but our civilian govt counterparts use them too

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    You can also setup local comms network for them and the bands they can operate in have better structural penetration vs most WiFi/cellular?

    It also gives them a singular, simple device that won’t be confused for personal notifications like a smart phone.

    Not everything needs to be bleeding edge. We still use forks and spoons cuz they just work.

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    2 months ago

    Guests at restaurants where you get a device that beeps when your food is ready. Guess what? That’s a pager.

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    In the HAM Radio world we use them. But we also use our own infrastructure. I have mine set to let me know when something happens that needs my attention asap. Only works around my stuff or other HAMs that have stuff tied into our system. So not useful outside narrow circumstances.

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      Cellular signals have a hard time penetrating dense concrete buildings and underground structures. That’s why doctors still use them, even in the States.

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          Hospitals are practically faraday cages, it can be hard to get a signal in large hospitals.

          But a text message that amounts to just a few bits can usually sneak through without much delay.

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            I was thinking it had more to do with the use of the 900MHz band which has advantages in the penetration of certain materials compared to higher frequencies but I’m not an expert.

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    I think I’d like a 2-way pager these days. They were a little ahead of their time because me and most people preferred phone calls to sending text messages but that’s obviously flipped hard over the last decade. I straight up groan when someone has the audacity to call me now lol

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        They offer text messaging as well yeah, but simpler devices are nice. I use my smartphone most when I’m at work, bored in the break from (like right now) but outside of that I just usually have better things to do. I often leave my phone at home in favor of my smart watch which does a lot less but still has my music on it and a way for the wife to contact me which are the 2 main things I value. I’m just saying that even it’s not for the majority, 2 way pagers would likely have a place in the market. There’s a whole group of people these days that love shopping for dumb phones to cut distractions out of their days.

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    Work has me using my current phone for alerts on my on-call rotation. I asked them to send me a pager instead if I can’t properly filter the alerts (Jira on Android has at least 2 sets of notification settings and then there are settings apparently within Jira. I was getting basically every Jira, Confluence, etc. message).