I’m playing whack a mole constantly, blocking all these anime subs!

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    72
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 months ago

    ?

    I don’t see any anime subs by default just browsing the lemmy.world all page when sorted by hot, active, scaled, or new. So what exactly are you doing, and where do I sign up?

      • snooggums@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        21
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        3 months ago

        Yes, blocking something you don’t want to see usually results in seeing fewer of that thing.

        • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          18
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          Not when that thing has dozens of communities for every little nuance a genre can have. For example:

          • t�m
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            20
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            Block the instance

            Edit: I love anime but my response was for those who don’t. If they want less then subscribe to the local ones and block the anime instances that aren’t local

            • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              13
              arrow-down
              5
              ·
              edit-2
              3 months ago

              I resent that.

              Please don’t go around commenting things that will make readers think “moe” means something it doesn’t.

              And we have different ideas of what “majority” means: !officemoe@ani.social, !thiccmoe@ani.social, !fitmoe@lemmy.world.

              My reasons for setting up the communities are explicitly non-pornographic, and even the quite sexy content is not the kind anyone faps to.

              Its about charachter art that is adorable and compelling in a way that provokes attachment. Not arousal, or at least not just that.

              The newest !smolmoe@ani.social specifically does not allow lewd content at all, even though it includes adult characters, because I know people like you would instantly make it weird.

              And it is weird, but not in the fucked up way you’re thinking of.

            • SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              7
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              3 months ago

              I’m with you on this. That may not be the intent, but it sure as hell is the vibe they give off.

              • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                5
                ·
                3 months ago

                What “vibe”? The only descriptive words this person used are “worst” and “loli” and the obvious extrapolation there is a beyond serius accusation.

                If you can acknowledge it’s not the “intent”, then why the fuck are you still “with” someone who seems to think that judging anime fans together with the absolute worst of humanity, is anywhere close to reasonable?

                • SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  5
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  I absolutely didn’t acknowledge that it isn’t the intent, I said it may not be.

                  I absolutely think that is the intent and I find those communities to be gross and have them all blocked.

                  You are so weirdly defensive about it. Almost like you know a lot of people find it highly questionable and they may have a point. If you think every anime fan is into that crap, you are very sorely mistaken, and if you don’t, you are using inapplicable generalizations to make a point and that’s just deceptive.

        • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          Right (appreciate the sparky comment), but there seem to be anime subs for every little anime niche there could possibly be. If it was all limited to a few anime subs this would never have been an issue. Block one or two communities, and you’re done.

          Instead, you have to play wackamole and block communities every couple of weeks that get created for some new niche that apparently is t filled.

          • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            3 months ago

            On the other hand, imagine wanting to block Linux communities, it feels like every other day there’s a new one

          • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            3 months ago

            Are you actually checking the creation dates on the communities?

            Or are you just mad that there are a lot of them, and that people actually post to them, even months after they get created, and so you end up seeing a new one now and then.

            Because as one of the biggest anime content posters, “every couple weeks” is just not the case. There’s daily content but it’s from a definite group of subs that you absolutely can block.

            Here, I even have a list: https://ani.social/post/284178

              • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyz
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                3 months ago

                Because they are the communities main posters.

                If someone would pretend that I spam the All feed with new football communities every few weeks when it’s not the case, I would reply too

          • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            I got the impression it’s just a few people and the one I replied to was very hostile. They thought it was their right to post as much borderline loli as possible.

      • mrvictory1@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        I had to do this for US politics but I don’t recall when I last saw an anime related post.

    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Check out ani.social and go from there.

      Or just look at my post history.

    • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      3 months ago

      It comes and goes in waves I believe. There was a time when you’d see a wave of Moe themed communities. The same has happened for music, and ai too. If you haven’t seen it, or don’t recall, then count yourself lucky.

      • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        3 months ago

        Oh, they never stopped. I’m still posting regularly to all of them, but I set up all the ones I wanted, so if you blocked them you wont have seen any new ones pop up in a while.

    • LilDumpy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      3 months ago

      Yes, OP’s post is unpopular.

      I would also like to sign up for Anime news and updates.

      Please lmk how to do this.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        For grins just now I scrolled through ten (10) pages on “all” (i.e. including federated and not just local lemmy.world posts) and sorted by “hot” (the default).

        I got one MurderMoe post, one ChainsawFolk post, and one TouhouProject post.

        …And about ten linuxmemes posts, I didn’t even count how many politics posts, several TenForward posts, like five Lemmy Shitposts entries, quite a few News and World news, and three inscrutable posts in Arabic despite by content language being set to English.

        Barely a single pair of anime tiddies among the whole lot. What a drag.

  • kratoz29@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    56
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    3 months ago

    What is mental for me is that people browse the ALL feed and then complain about what it shows… I feel crazy only browsing my subbed communities all the time lol.

    • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      yeah, it doesn’t make sense to complain, but browsing ALL and blocking what you never wanna see again leaves you with lots of neat stuff you wouldn’t have found sticking to your subscribed communities.

      however, i wish lemmy had categories/tags for communities, so people could block or specificly browse everything anime or everything sports etc. it would be quite helpful.

      • kratoz29@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        leaves you with lots of neat stuff you wouldn’t have found sticking to your subscribed communities.

        Oh yeah, I can totally dig that, I had the trending communities at my subbed communities though, although I don’t see it popping up as often as it used to.

        however, i wish lemmy had categories/tags for communities, so people could block or specificly browse everything anime or everything sports etc. it would be quite helpful.

        I like Summit for Lemmy a lot because it let me create multi communities, so far I have one for gaming, one for retrogaming and other for handheld gaming, sadly Lemmy ain’t reddit yet (only the first two are fairly active).

      • isaaclw@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        This is what Im doing for now, also trying to subscribe to a bunch of stuff.

        But Im newbhear and still browse reddit some as I figure all this out.

        Now if only my favorite twitter followers would switch to mastadon…

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. Lemmy needs customized feeds. You create a feed, You call it “Nintendo”. Then you create another catagory, “subscribed”. Then you open the subscribed catagory, and uncheck all the communities you’re subscribed to that relate to Nintendo.

        Then you open Nintendo, and uncheck all, then recheck all communities that DO relate to Nintendo.

        Now, if Nintendo has their direct, and it’s 11am because Japan isn’t in the same time zone as America, so you’re at work…you can browse “Subscribed” without being spoiled on the direct. Then, AFTER you get home, and watch the direct, you can browse by Subscribed + Nintendo, and you’ll see all your communities. Or browese by Nintendo, and ONLY see Nintendo communities that you’re subscribed to.

        Now do that for every catagory you subscribe to.

        You could browse by Nintendo + Pro Wrestling. Now you’re seeing a custom feed of JUST Nintendo related communities, and JUST Pro Wrestling communities mixed together in one feed. But you wouldn’t see your news communties, or your photography communities, or your porn communities.

        But if you browse by all, you should have 2 options, All-All, and All-Local. Which should both be self explainitory. But browsing by All, you shouldn’t get the right to complain that somethng exists. You can block it, and never see it again, but that doesn’t mean someone else won’t make a similiar community, and you can’t complain. Things exist. Deal with it.

        But we do need some more elaborate subscribe based feeds.

    • Psythik@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      3 months ago

      All is how I browsed reddit, so it’s how I browse Lemmy too. Like others have said, it allows you to find new communities, and is a pleasant experience once you filter out all the trouble communities and instances.

      And TBF, Lemmy doesn’t have default communities and I’m too lazy/ADHD to subscribe to any of them.

      • kratoz29@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        That is fair, browsing my subbed subreddits for more than 10 years was my way to go for Reddit (Reddit was my replacement for Feedly, basically, so I am used to curating my stuff).

        Maybe that is why, aside from the APIcalypse I don’t have a grudge against Reddit, and I missed some huge drama shit and toxic bs that you’d find in r/All (spam, bots and reposts too).

    • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      3 months ago

      How few interests do you have and how active are the communities? If I did just my subbed communities all the time it would be 2 day old politics and comedy subs with last post 2+ weeks ago.

      I guess maybe you don’t browse much or you’ve got a much more active set of core subs.

      (Maybe some of that unavoidable anime and femboy content IDK)

      • kratoz29@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        I follow more than 800 communities, I never finish up my backlog feed 🤣 (but I do see a lot of repeated content for sure).

      • lemmyingly@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        Why do you want to browse stuff that you have zero interest in? I imagine it to be a massive waste of time.

        I’d prefer to view only the communities I’ve subbed to and see that there is no new contributions than look at stuff I have no interest in because I can turn off Lemmy and do something else with my day.

        • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          3 months ago

          How do you know what new things you have no interest in? I block the stuff I don’t like, I sub what I definitely do like (and occasionally browse it), and the rest I am happy to watch pass by and give up- or downvotes accordingly.

          This is like asking “why would you go to a new website when you already know what you like?” Or “why would you go to a new place to look for friends or dates when you know you like people at XXX place?”.

          Frankly, sorry, this perspective of “anything I haven’t subbed I obviously don’t like” is pretty fuckin stupid. Don’t feel bad though, you aren’t alone thinking it.

          • lemmyingly@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            “Frankly, sorry, this perspective of “anything I haven’t subbed I obviously don’t like” is pretty fuckin stupid. Don’t feel bad though, you aren’t alone thinking it.”

            Likewise, I think it’s really stupid to be looking at content you have zero interest in. And likewise, don’t feel bad though, you aren’t alone.

            Thanks for the belittling tone of your statement there 😉. You just have a different point of view.

            How can you waste so much time looking at content that you have zero interest in? Don’t you have stuff to actually do in life, or are you one of these people that get bored because you’ve got nothing to do?

            I’m a person that never gets bored. I always have something I want to do. I don’t have time to be doing things that aren’t necessary to survive and things I don’t enjoy.

            I know who I am, and what I like. My interests are quite broad and I know what I don’t want to see. I prefer to white list my interests on Lemmy than black list the things I have zero interest in. Even thought my interests are quite broad, white listing is significantly shorter. In an infinite number of interests, my 1000 interests are significantly shorter than infinity-1000.

            Edit: When I gain a new interest, which is usually a sub interest of another interest I have then I’ll look for the community on Lemmy/Reddit/other forums.

            When I first started Reddit many years ago I learnt that all is usually full of rage bait content. I avoid rage bait as much as possible. I guestimate that all on Lemmy is exactly the same since most Lemmy users were/are Reddit users.

            • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 months ago

              Live your best life yo, and have fun doing you. It would be cool to be young and know everything again.

              You don’t engage with new communities, neat. I like to keep an eye open, because out of infinity - 1000, there are still infinite communities I MIGHT like. Or even infinite - 2000 I don’t like too. Look at all the math I can do. Here’s an emoji 😍. Shut up, dude. Tell all your friends how well you know yourself, your perspective is still fucking stupid.

              Belittled because, here on the net, you are little. Just like everyone else.

      • kratoz29@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        I’d suppose that, but so far all people that have replied to me say otherwise 😅

  • osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    41
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    3 months ago

    Oh no, that terrible anime subs and content. Quick everyone post more fully qualified !links to more of these groups so i can avoid them, there’s only been a few in the thread so far

    • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      this is how i manage it, people say use subscribed but that shit blocks you in. fedi needs people posting across communities to liven it up

      • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        fedi needs people posting across communities to liven it up

        Curious coming from someone with 0 posts.

        But yes, we do need more people

          • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            3 months ago

            By the way, is this your first account or an alt? If it’s your first, how do you find Lemmy after a month?

            • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              3 months ago

              migrated after kbin.run got epstein’s so been around a hot minute.

              either way, deff won’t skip a chance to shill fediverse. personally i prefer mbin as my instance. big believer in decentralized social media and willing to suffer QoL hits for it. fediverse does fix the itch reddit used to fix so high hopes we can get it to the level where it becomes the defacto social media of the world without any of the nasty corpo bullshi that happened as result of web2.0.

              doing my part.jpeg

  • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 months ago

    I browse by All, and rarely see them anymore. I think my instance and community blocking strategy must be working.

  • half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    3 months ago

    They chill until they post sexy pictures of 16 year old characters.

    Then you post the age of the character in the post. That more fun than blocking.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      I mean, I notice the furry subs when I browse by all…but we need MORE sexual fetish subs, not less. I don’t engage with the furry subs, but we NEED more porn community porn. You think twitter would have grown if they had blocked porn back in 2008? Just look at Tumblr. They banned porn, and the users banned Tumblr. I heard they tried to undo the goof, but it’s too late. Other platforms took their place in their absence.

      If you don’t like a fetish, block it, and move on. The internet is for porn.

        • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          Yeah, and from what I see, my favorite communities there go weeks/months without new posts. I’m saying we need more content!

          • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            3 months ago

            Be the change you want to see: post there

            Also, I feel like nowadays with OnlyFans and mainstream porn sites the content is more on those platforms than forums like Reddit

      • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        I can understand what you’re saying, and I absolutely do ban tons of the weird fetish ones. They are just never ending lol. Guess I could just move to an instance where they have guardrails up.

    • 9point6@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Wait where are you seeing all the sports content? Any sport communities I browse have only a handful of regulars knocking about (don’t get me wrong, I’m glad of them, but it’s not quite the same as Reddit)

      • snooggums@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        3 months ago

        With sports it is more annoying because they tend to come in through bursts for very specific communities, like individual sports teams. Blocking each sports team community one at a time is like playing whack a mole.

        It isn’t that they are overwhelming the All - Hot feed all the time, but there are bursts where they do.

        • SatyrSack@lemmy.one
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          Back in the day, when Reddit was a thing, I always wanted some sort of dynamic curated block list. If I were to subscribe to the “sports” block list, then all the current sports subs would be added to my filters. Every time a new sports sub gets created, users have the ability to add that new sub to the dynamic “sports” list. At that point, everyone else that is subscribed to that “sports” list gets that new sub added to their filters automatically.

          • snooggums@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            3 months ago

            Categorizing things for blocklists is great concept, but since most content isn’t even marked for language I doubt the categories would be reliable enough to use.

        • 9point6@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          Ah the one from a week ago or so? There were a couple new ones for me in there, but none of the sports I’m interested in (basically football* & rugby) have super active communities. I’m glad I’m an arsenal fan at least because we’re the one team community I’ve seen that seems to have something new every day.

          *The international kind, not NFL

          (Also cheers to you for keeping the content up in the new communities community, definitely found a lot through your posts)

      • Maeve@kbin.earth
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        I’ve been getting a lot of formula 1 and WWF lately, sorting by “all”, “active”, and “new.” I just keep scrolling.

  • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    3 months ago

    It’s not just anime, but also (in my experience) music, games, and ai. They seem to feel that there needs to be a community for every. single. possible. sub-genre. 😞

    You can say the same for politics, memes, and many other genres for that matter. And I have no doubt there are those that are bothered by it too. Yes, we can all hide away under our local or subscribed feeds, but that’s a narrow-minded and xenophobic solution. We all should be able to scroll whatever feed, using whatever sort, we choose to use and not be assailed and harassed by these fervent die-hard (possibly ocd) “fans” of whatever genre du jour there happens to be.

    It’s a shame that Lemmy does not have a way to tag communities by genre. And it’s a shame most communities probably wouldn’t use it even if it were supported. It would not only help filtering out specific content, but conversely it would help with content discovery. Of course there is also any potential for abuse, because let’s face it, there are those that will just because they can. But I do t feel that’s worth not having a useful feature like tagging or whatever you want to call it.

    • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      We all should be able to scroll whatever feed, using whatever sort, we choose to use and not be assailed and harassed by these fervent die-hard (possibly ocd) “fans” of whatever genre du jour there happens to be.

      If you don’t like specific communities, block them?

    • missingno@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      I should be able to be a diehard fan of niche fandoms and hobbies without being told “no, stop enjoying things”. What exactly do you expect people who like things to do, just not have communities for the things they like?

      • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        The first thing I expect of anybody is to read and comprehend the things they reply to.

        Nowhere in my comment did I say that people should stop creating communities. In fact, what I did say was that we should be able to categorize communities using tags. I even suggested that people. For example, using these tags to filter or find communities of interest.

        So yeah, there’s that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    3 months ago

    I miss the 2000’s, when people were a little bit ashamed to admit they like anime. Now like half the people on the internet literally have anime profile pictures. It’s weird as fuck.

    It wouldn’t even annoy me so bad if I didn’t constantly get targeted for anime related advertising. I can’t stand anime. Why does my algorithm think I want anime things? I will never buy a big titted anime figurine, and just seeing one makes me curse the gods for giving me sight.

    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      3 months ago

      Lemmy doesn’t have an algorithm. Everyone gets the exact same feed, and you curate what you see using subs and blocks.

      • XTL@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        Except I think your instance affects what you see. Not all communities and instances are replicated everywhere.

        • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          That’s not an algorithm.

          An instance simply receives updates from all the communities to which at least one user on the instance has subscribed.

          Instances do not send updates to every other instance on the fediverse, only the ones where there are users that follow the content in question.

          That still means the differences will be small, as every reasonably sized instance is going to have at least one subscriber to every reasonably sized community.

    • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      3 months ago

      Why does my algorithm think I want anime things?

      Lemmy shows everything to everyone except if you block the communities.

      • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        Lemmy is like the only social media I have that doesn’t try to fist fuck anime down my throat strangely enough. I block them when I see them tho so maybe that’s why

    • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      I don’t mind anime but it’s multiple instances per anime and they’re endless. Also I didn’t wanna bring it up but so many of them are sexualized and weird

      • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        Dude anime stories, I’ll like read about it on tv tropes and be like “oh that’s a good story I’ll try it” and then it’s like infantilized women who are also sexualized in disturbing ways constantly instead, and the cool story idea kind of gets obliterated by it.

  • xc2215x@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 months ago

    Just go to the subscribed section so you don’t have to deal with them.