The Russian president says it would "significantly change" the nature of the Ukraine conflict and amount to "nothing less than direct involvement of NATO countries".
Yeah I don’t want to rely on that, the food situation will be so bad that there will be an impossible amount of death to deal with. Tens of millions will starve.
I’m just not equipped to deal with that, I’m not sticking around for it. I’m getting out before calorie deficit makes it harder and harder to get out. The longer anyone delays the decision to get away the less likely they’ll be able to, in the aftermath of bombs being dropped nobody is going to care that I stole a small yacht and they’re incredibly easy to just take.
I don’t think I would last a long boat trip in a resource collapse situation, I can’t stand fish, I don’t even like meat. I don’t even know where I would get meds from, long term, especially in remote locations.
I don’t look forward to what the nuclear war will be like, would be cool if our politicians stopped chasing after it.
I’d be taking 2-3 weeks worth of food too so the supplies situation would be ok. Need to get to the destination in that amount of time though.
Can probably stretch out supplies to double that if absolutely necessary. 7500km at 10 knots is a 17day trip. Biggest problem here seems to be fuel though, 1500km on a full tank seems to be max range, that only gets me to Portugal. Assuming I can refill there (big assumption) I could then get to Tenerife, then St Louis, then Cabo Verde, then the hardest part of the way to Brazil.
Probably try to figure out a way to get considerably more fuel on-board at the earliest point possible in order to skip any of these stops and the danger of not being able to refuel.
Boat seems best option here, I don’t think any airports will still exist after nukes drop. My main concern is whether or not the ports with the boats will still exist or whether they all get hit because they’re ports which seems like a valid target to me. This entire plan is fucked if that happens. There will be no escape. I’d have to cross the channel and cross a nuclear irradiated Europe, I don’t think that’s going to work. I doubt I’d even be able to cross the channel due to radiation.
If it does work, can sell the boat at the other end of the journey which should help with surviving there long enough to find work.
Keep in mind there are nuclear weapons now that intentionally make tsunami, so even boats (in port) might get wasted, not to be negative- this is making me want to consider hijacking some big ship like a tanker or bulk carrier.
I haven’t really thought about big ships. Not sure where to even start with that. Surely the ports with the big tanker ships would absolutely be targeted?
Dealing with crew would be a nightmare too without guns and I don’t know anything about managing a large ship? You’d need the crew. Supplies would be a nightmare. Also the crew of surviving tanker ships are probably going to be pretty well aware of the usefulness of their ships.
My fallback plan is to become high warlord of the wasteland, preferably with some sort of armored train. I just need to work on my cult of warboys
Yeah I don’t want to rely on that, the food situation will be so bad that there will be an impossible amount of death to deal with. Tens of millions will starve.
I’m just not equipped to deal with that, I’m not sticking around for it. I’m getting out before calorie deficit makes it harder and harder to get out. The longer anyone delays the decision to get away the less likely they’ll be able to, in the aftermath of bombs being dropped nobody is going to care that I stole a small yacht and they’re incredibly easy to just take.
I don’t think I would last a long boat trip in a resource collapse situation, I can’t stand fish, I don’t even like meat. I don’t even know where I would get meds from, long term, especially in remote locations.
I don’t look forward to what the nuclear war will be like, would be cool if our politicians stopped chasing after it.
I’d be taking 2-3 weeks worth of food too so the supplies situation would be ok. Need to get to the destination in that amount of time though.
Can probably stretch out supplies to double that if absolutely necessary. 7500km at 10 knots is a 17day trip. Biggest problem here seems to be fuel though, 1500km on a full tank seems to be max range, that only gets me to Portugal. Assuming I can refill there (big assumption) I could then get to Tenerife, then St Louis, then Cabo Verde, then the hardest part of the way to Brazil.
Probably try to figure out a way to get considerably more fuel on-board at the earliest point possible in order to skip any of these stops and the danger of not being able to refuel.
Boat seems best option here, I don’t think any airports will still exist after nukes drop. My main concern is whether or not the ports with the boats will still exist or whether they all get hit because they’re ports which seems like a valid target to me. This entire plan is fucked if that happens. There will be no escape. I’d have to cross the channel and cross a nuclear irradiated Europe, I don’t think that’s going to work. I doubt I’d even be able to cross the channel due to radiation.
If it does work, can sell the boat at the other end of the journey which should help with surviving there long enough to find work.
Keep in mind there are nuclear weapons now that intentionally make tsunami, so even boats (in port) might get wasted, not to be negative- this is making me want to consider hijacking some big ship like a tanker or bulk carrier.
I haven’t really thought about big ships. Not sure where to even start with that. Surely the ports with the big tanker ships would absolutely be targeted?
Dealing with crew would be a nightmare too without guns and I don’t know anything about managing a large ship? You’d need the crew. Supplies would be a nightmare. Also the crew of surviving tanker ships are probably going to be pretty well aware of the usefulness of their ships.
You can get pretty far with mushrooms