• Magister@lemmy.world
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    What we see from the outside, is that a lot of people (poors, rednecks, trailer park people, etc) voted for him to gut ObamaCare, not knowing they were on it too… All those people don’t want to pay for others healthcare even if they themselves don’t pay a penny in taxes and get them for free.

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      Osho was right. Successful democracy relies on the people’s collective intelligence. Unfortunately, some demographics are running on a deficit of intelligence and/or factual information.

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        Osho is not a good role model. And that is a pretty fashy line of thinking…

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          Is it? Or are you mixing up “demographic” with “ethnicity”? People who are raised in an environment that does not promote individual thought (like overly religious or politically one-sided groups, or any setting where tribal mentality is dominant) will not have access to the same quality of information, and will likely be subjected to some kind of indoctrination. Adoption of the group’s ideals may be forced by societal pressure, and resistance may be met with punishment. A child exposed to a constant rhetoric about how “those dang dirty democrats are stealing our tax dollars and lying about everything, believe your daddy” and no way to confirm or deny it will likely grow up to be an adult repeating that rhetoric. I know because I used to be like that, and it took massive conscious effort to unlearn it.

          Also, I literally only know of Osho from that one clip and have no interest in researching a religious leader, reason above.

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            lol someone from .ml trying to correct your thought crime

            they probably think that not having children is eco fascism

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            No… just that generalising like this, and saying some groups are “intellectually deficient”, even if you don’t mean race or ethnicity, still is unscientific and unhelpful.

            The mistake of race and racism wasn’t the specifics of discrimination on skin color. It’s discriminating whole groups based off of vibes and arbitrary boxes.

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      Bigotry and hatred are all about confirming your own status, even if those confirmatory actions hurt everybody, including you. As bigotry and hatred are illogical, however, you just say “but [outgroup] is being hurt more than I am!” and laugh it off, even as your family suffers.

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      People with low enough income would be on Medicaid, which basically covers everything 100%

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    Back in 2015, he said that if Secretary Clinton was elected president, there would be a taco truck on every corner. Why he stumps for the other side, I never understand.

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        He thinks that’s a bad thing, because it means people who already have healthcare would have longer lines at the doctor and more wait for services.

        Except in reality universe healthcare = more preventative care = shorter lines for the ER and fewer critical cases cause people got taken care of earlier.

        Universal healthcare would mean less demand for emergency care.

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          also (australia here), i don’t think i’ve ever waited more than a week to see my specific doctor, and i can usually find someone that day if it’s urgent?

          oh also i can call a number and get a doctor to come to my house in a few hours

          also it’s all free (other than taxes, but i guarantee my taxes are cheaper than insurance!… and you can pay more for more luxury care - which the government subsidises the same amount)

          … also also i still have private insurance for some “make life nicer” non-necessities

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      A question - do you think these are all from stupidity?

      The R politicians are so stupid that they say things about D candidate which make you like the latter more?

      You think you are smarter than such powerful people?

      There’s such a thing as match-fixing in team sports.

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    Yeah guys just hold your breath for that free healthcare. Fucking LOL.

    Seriously though at least she’s a little better than that asshole. But free healthcare is a pipe dream.

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    The Trump campaign’s approach to this whole thing seems to be identical to the CCP’s approach to propaganda against the American military – make it look awesome. Neither one makes any sense to me, but I enjoy both.

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    If only he could say something true instead of only lies. Just this once.

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    Does anyone else think Americans seem to enjoy making things harder for themselves just so they can talk about the adversity they overcame?

    They make healthcare paid for so you need to either be super rich or so popular you can easily fund raise a small fortune because you’ll bankrupt yourself for life just to call an ambulance.

    I saw George Thorogood at the OC Fairground in 2019 and the guy who supported him was talking about how he had a kidney transplant and how proud everyone should be that they’re American because if he lived in any other country he would have died. Ridiculous.