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    3 months ago

    Oh I understand you feel that way, and that’s fine. But there are rules at the Olympics and these are the rules.

    Not everyone feels that is so clearly ridiculous. As I said, most places on earth treat it as the common cold nowadays.

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        I see why his take on this is the antipod of yours, but you clearly won’t achieve anything by so easily shifting to aggression and leaving the discussion on a tantrum.

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        I’m sorry you feel that way and lack the ability to disagree and discuss amicably.

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          don’t mistake you being worthless for my lack of ability. you are just obviously not capable of learning and i am not a patient woman

          go guzzle a septic tank

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            What are you trying to teach that makes you think I’m incapable of learning? I’m just sitting here providing info on IOC rules.

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              You’re just being an annoying pedant and rules fetishist. We are saying that it is ridiculous to treat it as a common cold go fuck off back to reddit you civility obsessed debate pervert.

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                If it is ridiculous, why is most of the world behaving that way? I’m genuinely confused on the night and day difference between this thread and the world around me.

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                  Because the churn of propaganda convincing people to go to work and risk their health for the profits of capitalists. Jfc children can understand this. You’re just trolling.

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                    I’m not trolling. I’m just confused it seems. I feel like I walked into the twilight zone.

                    Are you suggesting that everyone needs to be staying home and not working? If everyone doesn’t go to work, how will people survive (food, water, climate control)?

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                  If it is ridiculous, why is most of the world behaving that way?

                  okay. look. you are either saying you don’t understand how something that’s normalized can be bad or you’re just so goddamn dense that you’re about to rip spacetime a new asshole. racism is normalized but it’s bad. sexism is normalized but it’s bad. the united states massacring foreign civilians for their country’s resources is normalized but bad. and yes, covid is now also - say it with me - normalized, but still bad.

                  christ alive.

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                    If racism or sexism is normal or accepted where you are, we are truly in different worlds.

                    That aside, look, it’s clear that your walkway in life is vastly different than mine right now and I feel that disputing each others norms is fruitless and impossible.

                    I appreciate your perspective.

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        I looked a bit more into it. The WHO has worked closely with the IOC and IOC President says “It is being treated like flu now, so there is no obligation for any special measures or notifications.”.

        So Noah did nothing wrong to not report it. There is no reporting rule.

        Also found this info:

        COVID-19 is no longer a global health emergency according to the WHO, and with much higher vaccination levels now than during the previous two Olympics, it is treated like any other respiratory illness. There has been a surge of COVID-19 globally this summer, but because of vaccination and prior infection, most cases are mild unless people are over 65 or have underlying conditions.

        This all reflects my reality where I haven’t heard about or been affected by COVID for years now.

        I’m just referring to the experts on this science. I’m not making shit up or reading trash conservative anti science bullshit. I’m genuinely curious about why others feel so strongly against the current WHO position.

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          Did it suddenly stop having long term damage to the immune and cardiovascular system or did capital decide it was time for everyone to get back to work?

          Sorry you haven’t been paying attention in you comfortable bubble, but covid never stopped being an issue

          https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/covid-19-can-surge-throughout-the-year.html

          https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/news/2024/study-suggests-reinfections-virus-causes-covid-19-likely-have-similar-severity-original

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            I’m pointing out what the rules are/were at the Olympics, and some background on why athletes are not in “trouble” for not mentioning they have an illness. The World Health Organization worked with the ioc to make rules they felt was safe. Was it capitalism driven to make money, or is it simply because it makes no sense to live in bubble wrap forever, I don’t know!

            I guess I see it as much of a danger as anything else in life at this point, and it feels as if most people agree.

            I’m not denying it exists. It just scientifically seems to be less significant than most other things. I think it is 1.5% of deaths now per some quick CDC research. That’s way less than an average flu season. What’s the stats on long COVID? Is that happening to a significantly relevant amount of people? Genuinely curious. Not baiting or anything.

            I don’t “live in a bubble”. I’m just an average dude. I travel a lot half the year in USA and EU and chill in remote areas all winter. I understand my experience isn’t everyone’s and I value your insight.

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              live in bubble wrap forever

              Shit like this is why you’re getting so much flack. It’s so fucking patronizing it makes me only want to tell you to fuck off

              Wearing a mask, social distancing, and regularly washing your hands isn’t living in bubble wrap. Having basic concern for your fellow man isn’t living in bubble wrap.

              I know multiple people with long covid. I know even more who are immunocompromised who are forced into hermitude because people like you cannot fathom to understand the experience of living a life that isn’t yours and how actions completely out of your control can completely destroy your life. Please do some soul searching and find a shred of empathy.

              1.5% of deaths now per some quick CDC research

              I’m sure the over 4000 families in the past 3 months who had someone die from covid feel similarly to you, that their loved one was not statistically significant and that it’s for the best that they’re dead so people like you don’t have to live in bubble wrap

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                I lost an uncle and a grandmother to COVID. My heart goes out to all those with loved ones dying from this and all causes.

                I’m fine with some rules about basic hygiene and common sense. The ioc doesn’t have those. Why? I’m not some wild antivaxxer out here spouting shit. I’m in here defending this Olympian who did nothing wrong in my opinion.

                And as I understand it, yall will just call me names like fascist and plague rat and told to fuck off - Because I simply feel even the slightest differently and have chosen to question this Olympian being under fire.

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                  It’s all about “follow the science” until it doesn’t align with their opinion. WHO actions are sometimes questionable and the intentions are not always quite clear, but it’s the same source of information that was used before, when covid was all around.

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                    Hmmm did the science change or did the engine of capital decide it couldn’t afford to have people treat covid in the way it should be. How is advocating for wearing a mask now in the midst of these regular waves no longer following science