Some important munitions, like anti-ship missiles, might last only a few days, said the eight-person commission appointed by Congress.
    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OPEnglish
      58·
      5 months ago

      Yemen has definitively proven that US navy can’t even stand up to a country without a navy.

      • Car@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        84·
        5 months ago

        Yeah, how many times did they sink the same carrier? 7?

        The other carriers won’t even survive one sinking

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OPEnglish
          44·
          5 months ago

          Last I checked, the carrier left the Red Sea with its tail between its legs, after the captain posted a vid from a month before the attack as “proof” that nothing happened.

        • geikei [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
          25·
          5 months ago

          On the other hadn the US Navy admitted that they had instances of last second intercepts of Houthi missiles that got through to the last line of ship defences. A limited number of older iranian missiles managing that doesnt bode well for the carrrier group against an order of magnitude more modern chineae missilies

        • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          14·
          5 months ago

          They never announced sinking of carrier, they said they damaged it which may or not be true, fact is that it retreated from the Red Sea with some sus behaviour from the USNavy about it.

  • dRLY [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    38·
    5 months ago

    Them admitting this just seems to be the same tactics that are meant to be “scary” and create false demand for more money. With it being an election year and all, it means the corpo parties will both trip over each other to provide blank checks. Like always.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OPEnglish
      44·
      5 months ago

      I think that even US oligarchs would rather rule over what remains of their empire than spend the rest of their days living like rats in a bunker. Pushing the nuclear button is a no win scenario.

      • Greenleaf [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        25·
        5 months ago

        Not saying a nuclear exchange is impossible, but I have seen nuclear scientists discuss just how (relatively) little nuclear weapons going off could really fuck up the planet.

        About 100 bombs the size of the one dropped on Hiroshima (relatively tiny, basically a tactical nuke today) going off in cities could potentially fuck up the climate of an area the size of a continent for several years.

        If the US and Russia launched about 5% of their arsenal at each other, that’s enough to potentially end most human life on earth.

        When two nuclear powers go to war, once they start launching the nukes there is no off-ramp, no real way to de-escalate.

        Long way of saying I agree, the oligarchs of the US have to know what a war with China would actually bring. And like you said, better to rule in a diminished US than die the same death as the proles they hate.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OPEnglish
          24·
          5 months ago

          Indeed, I think the real danger is that US might start a conventional war with China thinking they could win, and then when things inevitably start going south, there’s a lot of potential for stupid shit to happen. RAND actually published a study on a conventional war with China, and this is the level of insanity we’re dealing with https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1140.html

          • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]@hexbear.netMEnglish
            22·
            5 months ago

            We also assume that China would not attack the U.S. homeland … given its minimal capacity to do so with conventional weapons

            Jfc you weren’t kidding, these people are actually detached from reality. Amerikkkans really can’t comprehend the reality of war since they haven’t actually experienced it as a population since the civil war. 100% the war would start with America attacking, getting a bloody nose, losing a carrier or two, and launching nukes at China.

      • Palacegalleryratio [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        12·
        5 months ago

        I am absolutely sure once carrier groups start going down America would panic. I think they might even make the calculus that a limited nuclear strike would not be enough to provoke a full nuclear response, especially if they think China would be reticent to start a full nuclear war for humanitarian reasons.

          • Palacegalleryratio [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            7·
            5 months ago

            Yeah if you analyse the USA as you would a child you come to the same answer.

            When me and my sibling were very young, I was older and hence bigger and ostensibly more mature than my younger sibling. If my younger sibling wasn’t getting their own way they’d worked out they could punch me in a non-sensitive location (shoulder, thigh etc) and I wouldn’t be able to respond other than verbally as mom would be angry at me.

            I feel like the USA would be the same as my younger sibling, in the case of not getting their own way, they would go nuclear, but rather than trying to nuke Beijing and the rest, it would try to do a limited number of strikes on maybe a key port with a large Chinese naval presence, power or fuel or ammunition manufacturing etc to level the score. Then they would hope that after this limited strike, their opponents would be forced to show restraint, much like me and my sibling with the threat of mom being mad, but for America and China the threat of ‘mom’ would literally be M.A.D.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OPEnglish
          3·
          5 months ago

          unfortunately, what we’re seeing in Ukraine does indeed show that there might not be much rationality at play

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      20·
      5 months ago

      While it’s true that it’s all propaganda, you have to dig beyond these provocative woe is me headlines. The US’ supply chains are heavily dependent on China, including military tech. Congress is trying to launch initiatives for domestic production (or at least decoupling from china) of chemicals and components for munitions and advanced military tech.

      Whether or not the pockets of MIC are lined up or the military is “fine,” the fact remains that right now, nukes aside, if the US goes to war with China, they will either fail or scrape by their teeth by threatening to end all life in Europe in Asia unless their allies repurpose their entire societies to produce for the US.

  • FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    18·
    5 months ago

    I’ma keep it real with you American military industrial complex, I am not going to war with kitai for no reason. (and lord knows any justification they try to give won’t be a reason, especially not Taiwan).