The Israeli parliament gave preliminary approval on Monday to a bill that declares the main United Nations relief organisation for Palestinians a terrorist organisation and proposes to sever relations with the body, Reuters reports.

The vote against the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA) is the latest step in an Israeli push against the Agency, which Israeli leaders have accused of collaborating with the Hamas Movement in Gaza.

Israel has said hundreds of UNRWA staff are members of terrorist groups, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, but has yet to provide evidence to a UN-appointed review.

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    Ah, the relief agency that was thoroughly proven not to be a terrorist organization last time Israel tried this, a few months ago. I guess they just need some way to make sure Palestinians aren’t saved from starvation, thirst and disease.

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      And carpet bombing. Now it’s your time to speak, Kamala. What do you have to say about this?

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        1. Secure American democracy

        2. Things we can do once we have secured #1

        We’re on phase 1 just yet. You want phase 2.

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          So just genocide as usual and “nothing will fundamentally change” like Biden.

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          Always making excuses instead of holding politicians accountable means nothing will get done. She was already part of the Biden regime so she is party to the genocide.

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            Eh, she’s Vice-President. That barely means anything. Her office didn’t even know Biden was planning on dropping out. So far her only job is to break ties and tell immigrants not to come into the country. I won’t judge her on this genocide until she’s President (which hopefully she will be).

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              She’s a part of the administration. She could have spoken out but chose not to and you are just going to give her a pass which means you support genocide. 👍

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          Oh of course, those pesky genocides are gonna have to wait until we are able to spend 3 days in january, at most, putting down another coup. You understand that genocide is more important than whether your team wins an election, right?

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            Of course it is a .ml user pretending Repubs don’t want more genocide in more places.

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          Democracy is when you can decide what your country does right? Like while the government is currently in power and stuff?

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        Have you considered blaming the people committing genocide? Of course not, because you don’t actually give a shit about genocide, it’s all just a bad faith attack point.

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          You mean Israel which is funded and equipped with American weapons? Yes, that’s where I’m coming from. Try again

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    It’s like they’re trying to get ahead of the narrative to deceive future historians… I just hope someone with the knowledge and means is making physical records of all this. Written in silica, or something.

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        You do realise how racist you sound right now, right? Are you calling more than 2 million people, terrorists?

        What about the kids, the newly born babies, are they also terrorists and deserve to die and/or starve? What happened with the idea of everyone being innocent until proven otherwise.

        And how many civilians have Israel and Palestinians killed over the years? Or let’s simplify the questions, how many of those are below 16?

        You can simply watch any documentary dedicated on the life of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, read any human rights groups that is not affiliated with Israel what they think about the conditions in those two territories. Open Wikipedia and read the articles on the subject, etc. The ICJ just proclaimed that what is doing Israel in the West bank and Gaza equates to apartheid.

        Shall I also remind you that before their independence there were Jewish resistance fighters who were also branded terrorists by the authorities back then and the same fraction became the backbone of the IDF.

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          War is waged between governments and organizations. The death of civilians is an unavoidable side effect.

          I think both Israel and Hamas need to calm tf down so that they can actually negotiate peace terms; but that ain’t happening so long as people send either side weapons.

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            Are we living in a parallel reality? Didn’t you see how Israel deliberately killed their own hostages, shirtless with hands in the air, or the humanitarian workers, in a clearly marked vehicle, whose route has been communicated beforehand via official channels.

            Do you truly believe that the IDF really cares about the civilian lives of Palestinians? Have you heard of anyone from IDF being convicted for the unlawful killing of civilians in Gaza? Nope? All of this coming from the most moral army in the world /s

            And last thing I heard was that Israel wasn’t willing to agree to their own ceasefire terms and are actively undermining the negotiations. Bibi knows he will be a toast if he stops the war and most likely will be criminally persecuted on corruption charges and there is a chance he also ends up behind bars.

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      Even Russia doesn’t allow itself to literally go to war with a UN agency

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      Aristofascists called Biden crooked and evil for yeeeears, and he’s done some mighty decent things while in office.

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    I know the UN is not NATO but an attack on an arm of the UN should be an attack on all.

    It’s past time the world started treating Israel like they treat Russia.

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      No one but genocide loving zionists wants to hear the lying screeds of a genocidal, racist, apartheid regime. I care as much to read that as a copy of the latest “Jewish crimes” written by Nazi magazines in the 1930s.

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        That’s some really strong statements. Speaking for myself I don’t identify as a genocide loving Zionist.

        For what it’s worth the article is really dry and cites independent sources, and has quotes from UN officials that say that UNRWA workers were removed. A full internal investigation will take place.

        This is how statecraft works. Have you ever wondered why there’s no Pride parades on Palestine but there are in Tel Aviv?

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          Let me ask you using your own rhetoric: “Have you wondered why there is no food in Gaza but there is in Tel Aviv?”. Real mystery!

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            The aid comes through Egypt, ask the Egyptians and whatever arm of Hamas steals it and resells it to normal Palestinians?

            A lot of aid was found in the tunnels Hamas forced children to construct instead of hospitals and schools and whatnot.

            Netanyahu isn’t the answer either, but labelling an entire people as genocidal colonisers is a stretch. Also Sephardic Jews exist.

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              Last time I checked all the entry points to Gaza were controlled by IDF, so perhaps you should change your narrative. And how many entry points did they open. The reality is that Israel can do everything to alleviate the humanitarian situation in Gaza, by opening enough border crossings, and ensuring that sufficient humanitarian aid is entering the enclave but they consciously decided not to. So stop shifting the blame.

              Perhaps you could also try to justify the humanitarian aid looting, stealing, destroying by Israeli people, or the many humanitarian aid workers who lost their lives during this war, etc.

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                So the IDF controls the border between Gaza and Egypt? You should let Egypt know their border isn’t sovereign anymore.

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                  Yes they do. Even if they didn’t that excuses nothing about what Israel is doing.

                  And I guess by your Zionist logic no country has any sovereignty if anybody but themselves controls both sides of the border, which checks out since that’s also how Israel seems to think borders work.

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                Which ones, the ones Hamas were using as staging/headquarters areas, or the weapons depots Hamas placed near schools and hospitals that blew up?

                There’s no winners in war, but please stop pretending that Hamas is a rational actor in this conflict.

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                  One, that doesn’t excuse blowing up schools and hospitals, even if it was true. It makes them way worse than Hamas in every single way. Israel bombing schools, hospitals, and relief agencies isn’t some sort of own when Gaza has been left with no running medical system and Israel is still doing war crimes and a genocide. If I was the President, I wouldn’t sign off in bombing your neighborhood if a relative of yours did a crime, but then I’m not a genocidal maniac. If I was held hostage and someone blew me up, I’d be way more mad at them than the hostage taker. It’s just common sense.

                  Two, none of that that IDF propaganda has been proven to be true for the places they’ve blown up in the latest conflict. They stage little photo ops but none of it that I can find has been independently verified, and often it comes out laughably untrue, ruining their credibility further.

                  Three, it’s not a war, it’s an apartheid ethnostate occupying territory, doing ethnic cleansing, taking land, and trying to oppress and kill all the indigenous people through genocide over 70 years; and people trying to resist that. Some of those people are terrible, but that’s still what it is. The colonizers are the aggressors, the cause of this, any way you slice it.

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          "When granaries are full, people know etiquette; when they are well-fed and clothed, they understand honor and shame. " People on the brink of starvation do not ponder philosophy. UNRWA does not cultivate Hamas, but Israel’s attacks on Palestinians, killing their relatives, and making them hungry and homeless, are the soil that breeds Hamas. I believe that Zionism will become even more frenzied. According to the 1967 two-state solution, Israel should withdraw from Jerusalem, and if the CPC commits to it, they will never go back on their word.

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      And it looks like actions were taken by the UNRWA against involved employees. But Israel wants the total destruction of the agency just like Palestine.

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        For the most part Israel regarded the UNRWA as a problematic but ultimately stabilizing influence. Israel started taking umbrage when members of the UNRWA participated in and associated with the Hamas terrorists that raped, murdered, kidnapped men, women and children of many nations and faiths.

        So there’s that?

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      And how the UNRWA responded, which, as we’ve seen time and time again, is never enough for these bloodthirsty ghouls: https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1149081

      When will the rest of the world learn that it is pointless to try to placate Israel or treat them as though they are acting in good faith? The whole state is run by genocidal fascists who will never be satisfied by even the most obeisant allies.