KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday announced a military operation in Ukraine, claiming it’s intended to protect civilians. In a televised address, Putin said the action comes in response to threats coming from Ukraine.
In order to prove what? That Ukraine hasn’t been invaded by Russia? That the invasion doesn’t extent into the capital? You sure seem smug about something… but it seems like you’re nit picking in order suck up bandwidth from the truth of the matter.
At the time I posted this two days ago, there was no invasion into Ukraine. Russia pulled a pearl harbor style attack to disable the Ukrainian military. There was also some operations to make sure Ukraine couldn’t shut off water to Crimea and to make sure Chernobyl wouldn’t be damaged and releasing radiation it seems. This was not enough for Zelensky to cave, so they went further and are doing an operation in Kiev. They did not reach Kiev until late last night.
But when there were still only airstrikes in Ukraine, some online went straight with the conclusion that Russia was full-scale invading when that was not true, and it wasn’t obvious that anything more than surgical strikes would happen.
It’s very important to get the facts on this right when emotions are running so high. False claims of war crimes could trigger NATO intervention and WW3. I object to anyone confidently stating that either side is doing something within only a couple hours of scant reports being released. I default to agnosis. Both sides have motivations to make false reports of what’s happening. So I 100% stand by what I said because it was true at the time.
Did you know that the Japanese were emboldened to first-strike Pearl Harbor by their success in crippling the Russian navy in the Russo-Japanese War? That’s an all-out surprise attack to disable a stronger opponent. You’re claiming more of a limited-violence sortie for humanitarian reasons. Isn’t that exactly what you accuse NATO of?
I only make the comparison because the point of Pearl Harbor was to demilitarize the US by destroying our navy without invading the US mainland. That’s where the comparison ends. If you believe the US and Ukrainian governments, this was not a surprise attack. They have been saying they knew this was coming for months.
The evidence that Russian troops had been massing at the Ukrainian border was overwhelming. Putin himself confirmed that there were troops, otherwise he couldn’t confirm that one unit was being withdrawn. So, yeah, the US and Ukrainian governments are quite believable in that regard.
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I said Kiev. In the very post you’re responding to!
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But you are not responding to a general thread are you? You are responding to a specific comment in a specific thread of discussion.
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massing troopsbombinginvadingspecifically invading Kiev in particular."In order to prove what? That Ukraine hasn’t been invaded by Russia? That the invasion doesn’t extent into the capital? You sure seem smug about something… but it seems like you’re nit picking in order suck up bandwidth from the truth of the matter.
At the time I posted this two days ago, there was no invasion into Ukraine. Russia pulled a pearl harbor style attack to disable the Ukrainian military. There was also some operations to make sure Ukraine couldn’t shut off water to Crimea and to make sure Chernobyl wouldn’t be damaged and releasing radiation it seems. This was not enough for Zelensky to cave, so they went further and are doing an operation in Kiev. They did not reach Kiev until late last night.
But when there were still only airstrikes in Ukraine, some online went straight with the conclusion that Russia was full-scale invading when that was not true, and it wasn’t obvious that anything more than surgical strikes would happen.
It’s very important to get the facts on this right when emotions are running so high. False claims of war crimes could trigger NATO intervention and WW3. I object to anyone confidently stating that either side is doing something within only a couple hours of scant reports being released. I default to agnosis. Both sides have motivations to make false reports of what’s happening. So I 100% stand by what I said because it was true at the time.
Did you know that the Japanese were emboldened to first-strike Pearl Harbor by their success in crippling the Russian navy in the Russo-Japanese War? That’s an all-out surprise attack to disable a stronger opponent. You’re claiming more of a limited-violence sortie for humanitarian reasons. Isn’t that exactly what you accuse NATO of?
I only make the comparison because the point of Pearl Harbor was to demilitarize the US by destroying our navy without invading the US mainland. That’s where the comparison ends. If you believe the US and Ukrainian governments, this was not a surprise attack. They have been saying they knew this was coming for months.
The evidence that Russian troops had been massing at the Ukrainian border was overwhelming. Putin himself confirmed that there were troops, otherwise he couldn’t confirm that one unit was being withdrawn. So, yeah, the US and Ukrainian governments are quite believable in that regard.