If we gotta vote for a corpse, might as well vote for the best corpse.
Unironically consider this sometimes…
I don’t want a president beholden to Big Peanut.
You see, unlike his predecessor he did divest himself of his personal businesses before taking office.
Habitat for Humanity is the real deep state
Why do their houses have so few and such small windows? They’re stockpiling the glass to build a huge lens that will focus the sun’s rays to destroy the moon. The resulting storm of superheated asteroids pelting the Earth will destroy many homes, allowing them to swoop in and build new ones for everyone.
You heard it here first.
I did hear it here first, you are absolutely correct about that part.
It’s hilarious that he sold his peanut farm so people wouldn’t worry he was self dealing as President. Which is funny because HW Bush just changed the laws so he COULD self deal without divesting in actual wealth.
Peanuts? Aren’t they related to ACORN?
When I was a child my parents called me Acorn. They even named their dry cleaner after me.
Everyone else get the fuck away from me, this is the best joke I can stand to hear all day.
In my experience there just isn’t that much variation in peanut sizes tbh
Leave Jimmy alone 😭 he’s suffered enough from the American political complex.
Don’t give the DNC ideas
It’s depressingly funny that this isn’t necessarily a far-fetched possibility
It’s not a bad one
where is this from omg
i knew i recognised the artsyle lmfao
My first thought…
(I’m sorry)
Happens to us all if you live long enough.
That photo looks like an action shot of a Dementor sucking out his life force
How about shut up about this until elections are over? Yes, you’re all right about this, Biden is an old fart that should not be president. President should not be older than 65, period.
But there is Trump, and that, well, trumps all. Trump CANNOT become president afian, period
You cannot will away reality. No amount of willful ignorance will make undecided people vote for Biden.
But looking at Trump’s plans will.
You’re assuming people are going to do that well, or at all.
You got a point there.
Why would the quality of his opponent make me vote for a corpse? Biden isnt going to be cognizant enough to serve his term, if hes even alive. And certainly no president at all is worse than trump
Because the “quality” of his opponent is that he’ll convert the US in a theocratic dictatorship?
Not my words, his words with that insane project 2025 plan. Basically from those two, you can extract the following points: If you like democracies and still want to be able to vote in 2028, don’t vote trump. If you’re a woman and want to have any rights whatsoever left, you will not want to vote trump. If you’re a woman and dont want to die of treatable complications with pregnancy, don’t vote trump. If you like sex (huuuhhh) then don’t vote trump. If you like workers rights, dislike discrimination of any kind, don’t vote trump. If you’re LGBT, don’t vote trump. If you don’t have a nice white skin color, don’t vote Trump. If you like the environment and dont want to die from climate change, air pollution or whatever, then don’t vote trump
Sure, that’s not the point though. If someone is opposed to voting for Biden because of his age then ignoring the problem will not make them magically more inclined to vote for Biden.
If we’re fighting for our future then we should have the best candidate, not the default option.
And so they’ll vote for a guy who said multiple times he’ll turn the US into a dictatorship? The guy who has project 2025 for his policies to make it a theocratic dictatorship?
Yeah Biden is demented and senile but at this point I’d prefer a soft boiled egg over trump.
To be fair, Biden is not demented. He is showing signs of senility though. Which is why he should step down and allow any well functioning Democrat to take his place. Because if undecided voters considered anything Trump said to be a disqualifying statement, they would not be undecided. And polling in Pennsylvania, they state Democrats really really need to win the Electoral College, is going the wrong way. There’s a moment in every presidential campaign season where the polling trend lines diverge and do not come back together. It’s usually when the independents/undecideds break for one candidate or another.
But it’s also seen when a candidate has a structural issue they cannot fix, or cannot fix in time. Swiftboating for Kerry, Palin as VP for McCain, Binders full of Women for Romney. And now that debate in June for Biden. He’s had the scandal recovery period and he hasn’t patched it up, instead it’s just getting worse. So yes. You cannot let the echo chamber keep you all fuzzy and warm. We don’t have to repeat 2016, it’s not too late.
Yes, Caligula’s horse would be a preferable vote to cast over Trump.
That doesn’t mean a wise opposition to Trump would choose to run Caligula’s horse.
The question of “who to vote against in the general election” and “who is the best candidate to put forward as nominee in the general election” are very different questions.
President should not be older than 65, period.
Why 65 specifically? Why not 64 or 66?
Why not 69?
Nice
65 is supposed to be the age of retiremenr for a normal career
65 is supposed to be the age of retiremenr for a normal career
“Supposed to”
In Washington DC it’s 67. In Virginia it’s 61. In 1991 it was 57. It’s based on arbitrary convention, not for any medical reason.
Well, that should be standardized then, and 65 seems like a nice median
Well, that should be standardized then, and 65 seems like a nice median
Based on what?
I’ve known high energy 80 year olds who were sharp as a tack and 50 year olds with early onset dementia or who were just plain nuts to begin with.
This isn’t about age.
Youre entirely right. How exactly will you enforce a law that says “unless youre still sharp as a tack at 80”, though? There has to be a provable line or else the law is meaningless.
All candidates for elected office should undergo standardized cognitive and psychological testing. The latter should include things like personality and bipolor disorder tests and some kind of personality test if there even one that is roughly valid (I don’t know). These tests should not bar anyone from office necessarily but the results should be made public so voters can assess for themselves. These tests should be completed immediately after the candidate files to run.
Well a law is a hell of a lot harder to enforce if it’s not drawing a line somewhere in the sand, and I’d rather disqualify someone we should than qualify someone we shouldn’t
Perfectly happy to draw a line in the sand, it should just be based on what we care about - competence, intelligence, experience, not being a raging psychopath… that kind of thing. Saying 65 is too old is no better than saying 35 is too young.
Why not 33?
65 is a typical pension age. We could make it 60 too, really
Pension… LOL.
Lol because…?
A) Biden is going to lose to trump. B) The only chance we have to have a living president thats not trump is to nominate someone else. Anybody sane has already written off biden as dead. I guarantee you the entire white house staff has.
Do you think trump wont be around in 4 years?
Trumps health really isn’t better than Biden. Save for mental state (where he isn’t very far behind biden) Trump is in a much worse state, physically, than Biden. There is a good chance both of them aren’t around anymore 4 years from now
So you’re okay with attempting to elect a demented old man? When democracy is on the line? That’s crazy.
He could be replaced. If only we were allowed to have that conversation……………………………………………………
How about YOU shut up and let us have the conversation. Your way gets Trump elected. We are trying to save America here.
Save America by making people too apathetic to vote for the only thing that could save America?
… … … … … …!!!
It’s ultimately Biden’s decision. If he doesn’t want out, he has the power to dig in and make it difficult.
This is a democracy bro, we dont have kings. If you and biden want a monarchy, go turn traitor and join the red coats. Here in america, Biden doesnt get to be ruler just because he says he is.
I’m saying that if he doesn’t want to step down, you don’t have the option. Yes, he should have never pushed himself for reelection, he should never gone in 2020 even. But here we are, and you WILL get the option: Trump or Biden. Yes, it’s chosing between a turd and a shitshow, but I’ll take a turd over a shitshow any day.
Whataboutism
Whataboutism only applies as a logical fallacy when used to avoid defense of the original accusation.
There is no avoidance here, they fully agree that Biden is old etc. etc.
Whataboutism does not apply.
No he’s right. Shouting about Trump as a deflection from valid criticism of Biden is a classic whataboutism.
Comparing two candidates for a position is not a logical fallacy.
Using whataboutism to deflect from the criticisms of one is.
Again, criticism was acknowledged.
And then discarded with a whataboutism.
Can you go into detail? What’s the criticism that you think is being deflected?EDIT: nah, I’m just going to stick with my initial assertion. Comparing two candidates for a position is not a logical fallacy. Do you agree?
If that was the conversation then yes. But when the conversation is about party A fucking up then bringing party B into it is whataboutism. It’s the literal definition of a whataboutism.
No. It’s a complete misunderstanding of whataboutism.
Whataboutism is when you point to another similar situation and say “what about that”.
Examples…
A non-whataboutism - Biden is old, but we absolutely cannot have trump, a self proclaimed wannabe dictator, become president.
A whataboutism - Biden is old. Yeah, but trump is old too!
There is nowhere that defines whataboutism with that restriction. You guys are so deep in the sand you’re pulling out literal propaganda techniques to manufacture consent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Here try this^^
Or just google “what is a whataboutism” and take your pick.
Basically, take the argument against you, and accuse your opposition, or someone else of the same thing.
The wiki article does not support what you’re saying. It even suggests 2 other methods, accusations of double standards, and hypocrisy. The main point is to distract from the actual conversation by using an accusation.
Actually try reading your sources.
The next presidential debate is September 10th. We won’t find out until then whether this was just some unlucky fluke or if Biden should truly be moved to a residential care home for his own good.
By then it’ll be far too late to field another candidate…
Woody Guthrie at the height of his ALS would be a better choice than Trump (TBH, with his attitude towards fascism, he would probably have been a better choice than Biden too).
Why on earth do so many people not realize that if you vote for a corpse, he doesnt actually get to be president? If the corpse wins, we wont even know who the president is. Imagine electing trump, but hes entirely unaccountable to anybody because nobody knows who he is. Thats what would happen if we elect a corpse. Maybe this is a hot take, but I think there should be a president.
If the corpse wins, we wont even know who the president is.
Incorrect. That’s already accounted for in most circumstances:
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Candidate dies or is incapacitated before party convention: The convention decides the party’s candidate.
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Candidate dies or is incapacitated before election day: The party selects a replacement.
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Candidate dies before the Electoral College meets: The only exception at this time. Some states would need to hold emergency legislature sessions to amend their laws to allow their electors to vote. Others will mainly be assigned to the running mate.
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Candidate dies or is incapacitated before Inauguration Day: This is very clearly established in the 20th Amendment. The running mate/VP takes over and selects their new VP.
Just because it hasn’t happened before doesn’t mean that noone has prepared for the possibility.
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Like I’ve said before, all we need is someone to make it over the finish line before dropping dead
(Sorry I swear I don’t want 45 to be convicted felon 47)
Nah this is pretty funny even in the context of the crisis
It would be funny if it wasn’t a recycled 2016 meme
Same shit, different election year.
George bush jr is only in his 70s
I’m sorry to remind you of this but George Bush jr served two terms
Which is where we first learned that a campaign consisting only of “Vote for me, I’m not that other guy” is doomed to fail.
It worked in 2020.
Yeah, that was the swiftest boat on the political river that year.
Nah, I think we should give it to President Brandon.
Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?
Dianne Feinstein for VP, LFG!
Can we find a candidate that’s a little less maggot ridden?
Nancy Pelosi is only 84
I was thinking of Feinstein, doh.
Good, Pelosi is a little young but I’ll allow it.
