• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    His comments highlight the complexity for firms desperately needing supplies and parts manufactured in China, but not the competition from complete kits made there that undercut Western firms.

    We can’t afford not to buy parts so other companies can assemble them…

    But we also can’t allow China to sell complete units because then those middle men companies can’t make money…

    I’m no climate scientist, but at this point I have no sympathy for energy companies or their profits.

    It’s insane lots of world leaders say climate change is an important issue, then turn around and tariff or outright ban green energy products from China because they’re so cheap everyone would buy them.

    Just sounds like corporate welfare where whatever maximizes their profits is necessary, and everything that doesn’t gets banned.

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    4 months ago

    They’re mad because they’re terrified that, in order to compete without paying slave wages for Chinese labor, they might have to gasp! get paid less to make up the difference! Not smaller profits! Oh, no!

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        [Christian Bruch’s (CEO of Siemens Energy)] comments highlight the complexity for firms desperately needing supplies and parts manufactured in China, but not the competition from complete kits made there that undercut Western firms.

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          I understand this to mean: “there are no suppliers for some parts outside of China” rather than “my margins are affected, waaawaa”

          Like try and buy clay that hasn’t been processed at some point through China, or any piece of machinery that doesn’t have a component inside which originates in China. Hell, even try go 24 hours without using a Chinese product.

          This is why many countries are looking at re-implimenting protectionism, because we have reached a situation of non-control, regardless of domestic wants.

          I don’t think I agree with their (Siemens Energy’s) stance, without a Long term solution to change the issue, but I understand it’s place in the grand scheme.

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        I read it— but, more importantly, I also know the one thing that China has which constantly allows them to undercut Western manufacturing: cheap labor.

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    4 months ago

    When labor is so cheap you’re paying rice for human hamster wheel power generation.

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    What is he waffling about, chinas renewables are growing faster than any other country

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      If you read the article you will see that it is about importing materials like rare earth metals from China

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    A good solution to this is for less dependency on them. This is the nature of them taking too much, and that’s just… really not going to work out great for them, nor anyone.

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      That anybody can disagree with this is truly flabbergasting. China should not be the sole decider of whether our planet lives or dies. I don’t… I don’t get how anyone, even the Chinese, can disagree with that.

      Update: I think it’s the petrochemical industry. They’ve corrupted all the green energy focused subs here super badly from what I’ve seen so far. I think we’ve caught their attention already - which may actually be a good sign. We must be doing something effective enough to warrant it.