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No one here is questioning a food called fartons? Okay
Never heard of it, nor do I recognize the photo. Grew up in Madrid.
Go with horchata, tipical from Valencia
Cool, TIL!
Ciabattas are way older than that, a guy only patented it in 1982. Ask anyone who was around at the time, they were hugely popular in the 60s and 70s.
Yeah some of these seem dubious. Pasta Primavera is one of the oldest styles of pasta dishes out there. Maybe the date is when the name was given to it?
LOL Carbonara not even illustrated with said dish.
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If chicken tikka masala has the UK flag and not the Indian one, then nachos should have the US flag, as it was invented in the US (by a Mexican cook named Ignazio, or “Nacho”)
Wikipedia says you are incorrect:
The dish was created by, and named after, Mexican restaurateur Ignacio Anaya, who created it in 1943 for American customers at the Victory Club restaurant in Piedras Negras, Coahuila.
That’s just south of the border in Mexico.
Ignacio varga?! Kidding. But that explains the nickname. Or is it like dick and richard ? Altho…now that I think about it, nacio and nacho aren’t that far away, so it probably precedes the whole thing. Either way, Cool.
Nacho is the short form of Ignacio. Just like Dolores -> Lola. Makes sense right?
Not gonna lie, bubble tea is older than I thought. I thought for some reason it was a product of the 90s. Couldn’t tell you why, other than it just feels right.
Man, I could really go for some right now.
Same with blended iced coffee
I refuse to believe that salmon sushi is younger than me.
Never mind that – it was invented in Norway?!
Without looking it up, I believe it was because they were producing so much salmon and looking for ways to make it more popular.
I recall watching a YouTube deep dive on it and basically it was debunked. It’s raw fish, people have been eating it on sushi rice since fish and rice existed. But Norway did push it heavily in the 80’s.
It might have been that Andong guy…
But what about the whole “Japanese salmon is not really edible” thing?
I’m unfamiliar…
People in Japan did not eat salmon sushi because it was considered unsafe. The type of salmon caught by Japanese fishermen is not fit for raw consumption. That’s why salmon sushi only got popular when Norwegian companies exported the fish.
The only one I’m surprised about is tiramisu
You could have convinced me that farton was a weight or energy unit.
‘The moon weighs 58 fartons’
It takes 3 fartons to move your mum a decimeter
It roughly translates to “thing that feds you up”, or “glutton”. So really, could be
Canada invented the Hawaiian pizza?
South Park was right all along. Blame Canada
Created in Canada by a Greek immigrant!
Poutine.
This German Doner thing really triggers me. There are other food disputes I can’t support because I don’t know but isn’t döner literally known Turkish? “A German immigrant in B” blah blah?! I’ve ate döner in any form in bread, in plate, in dürüm and even in a fucking lahmacun in 90’s. If this shit continues, I’ll fucking put a shinitzel in a bread and call it “German immigrant invented in İstanbul called Turkish Shinitzel”.
Nobody denies its Turkish roots though. AFAIK putting Kebap in bread isn’t really a thing in Turkey and although one might argue how big a contribution that is, it’s that step that combined a Turkish dish with German Imbiss culture and made this a huge success all over Germany.
You’re welcome to try the same thing with Schnitzel and if you attain the same level of success and cultural significance, I’d rightfully call you the “inventor”. (though I have to inform you, that “Schnitzelsemmel” is a thing already, so maybe think of a different example)
The shawarma and dürüm variants got popular in Turkiye after 2010’s. Before that, we were always eating it in bread. It had veggies too.
If you want to say “it has this specific vegetable and that makes difference” then that’s another perspective I don’t agree with.
You keep telling us about the 90s. The dish had been around for 30 years by then. Enough time for the idea to travel back to Turkey, don’t you think?
Yeah
- no one put it in a bread from 1800s to 1960
- one of the 5m Turkish immigrant invented it
- that variant got back to Turkiye
- that variant became most popular in Turkiye
Makes sense. Unfortunately I don’t want to continue this conversation with assumptions. So you can assume as you want.
If you want to say “it has this specific vegetable and that makes difference” then that’s another perspective I don’t agree with.
That’s not a point I’m trying to make. Although my idea of Döner Kebap includes specific vegetable/salad ingredients, to my understanding the defining step was putting it in a portable loaf of bread, instead of having kebap on a plate. And as another commenter said, that idea might have been re-imported. But neither was I around when it first appeared, nor am I a Döner Historian of any capicity, so I have to rely on the sources I read. I’m also not passionate enough about the topic to do a lot more research. But no matter it’s origins: Döner holds a very special place in Germany’s culinary environment and that’s thanks to Turkish immigration history. So it’s definitely a significant food in this country.
This one goes also to you: https://lemy.lol/comment/10521648
In 30 years it it got invented, re-imported and became most popular.
Nothing on this list beats Tartiflette.
Missed pad Thai. Pulled right from the Wikipedia article:
Although stir-fried rice noodles were introduced to Thailand from China centuries ago, the dish pad thai was invented in the mid-20th century. Author Mark Padoongpatt maintains that pad thai is “…not this traditional, authentic, going back hundreds of years dish. It was actually created in the 1930s in Thailand. The dish was created because Thailand was focused on nation-building. So this dish was created using rice noodles and it was called Pad Thai as a way to galvanize nationalism.”
Another explanation of pad thai’s provenance holds that, during World War II, Thailand suffered a rice shortage due to the war and floods. To reduce domestic rice consumption, the Thai government under Prime Minister Plaek Phibunsongkhram promoted consumption of noodles instead. His government promoted rice noodles and helped to establish the identity of Thailand. As a result, a new noodle called sen chan pad thai (named after Chanthaburi Province) was created. Pad thai has since become one of Thailand’s national dishes. Today, some food vendors add pork or chicken (although the original recipe did not contain meat because of the government’s perception that pork was a Chinese meat). Some food vendors still use the original recipe.
It is a food that’s newer than it seems but the post specifically calls out foods created after ww2
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This is a fondant au chocolat, which roughly means melting chocolate cake, it’s a small cake with a liquid chocolate core.
It’s not fondant as in cake fondant, which is an abomination.
Caesar salad needs to be added to Mexico’s cultural trophy room as well, I only recently learned. Tiramisu is the ultimate fancy imo. I’ve always loved Mexican food, but am discovering that I love it more than I realized!
