• Alsephina
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    Tankies will see this and literally go “Hell yeah”

    Hell yeah!

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      The problem is that previous collapses of globalism have generally been followed by a period of destructive wars.

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          Because said neoliberal order has soent the past 40 years crushing any criticism from the left and sowing the seeds for fascism. Corporations aren’t going to give up all the power they have accumulated without a fight

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            Fascism is a reactionary response to the decay of Capitalism, yes, but Socialism is the natural evolution beyond Capitalism. The left can and will win against the fascists.

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              That’s the hope, but the liberals will crown the fascists rather than concede anything to the socialists. I’m not expecting any large socialist movement here in the US, and fully expect a fascist purging of all their “undesirables”.

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                The US will not have a large leftist movement until the global south pushes back and lifestyles in the US are no longer inflated by extreme global exploitation. If the global south revolts, as they seem to be over time, the opportunity will come and what has been minor quantitative shifts will result in a qualitative change in the US.

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          Show me the collapse of a large governmental structure that wound up with a better replacement. France is on their fifth republic since the revolution. The liberal order is collapsing into authoritarianism and conflict. That will continue for some time I’m guessing.

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            French Revolution, Haitian Revolution, Russian Revolution, Cuban Revolution, Chinese Revolution, American Revolution, etc.

            Typically Revolutions happen because existing conditions were abysmal, they don’t happen randomly or for no reason. Even if what takes the place of the previous state is flawed or highly flawed, what replaces it is usually better to much better, assuming it collapsed via revolution and not external conflict or internal collapse.

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    Anarchy?? No. That’s not the threat. These people don’t know what anarchy is.

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      Humans can’t do anarchy. They immediately reorganize themselves into a hierarchy every single time the current structure is brought down.

      What will happen is a regression into isolationist feudalism, not even close to anarchy.

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        Anarchy has been the “natural” state of humanity for most of it’s history (before the agricultural revolution). What political forms that humans adopt depend on external conditions. Under the conditions of primitive production combined with natural abundance, humans lived under anarchy. As the world continues to change, our political forms too will. I am not saying that anarchy will be the new state, but the reduction of hierarchies will most certainly have to happen.